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Who should decide what books your kids read in high school? That's the question being raised by a community activist in Howell. Vicki Fyke of the Livingston Organization for Values in Education has filed a complaint with the U.S. attorney's office that the Howell Public School teachers are violating state pornography laws by assigning students certain books to read. The case has since been referred to the FBI.

Fyke states that books written by Pulitzer Prize winner Toni Morrison, Kurt Vonnegut, as well as the novel "Freedom Writers Diary" by Erin Richard Gruwell are pornographic in nature. She maintains that the graphic descriptions of sexuality and profane language are not appropriate to minors.

Chuck Breiner, Howell School Superintendent: "The danger in eliminating controversial books is that the world becomes more narrow, less expressive, less educational and less challenging for the students."

David Morse, the Livingston County Prosecutor plans on spending this weekend reading the books in question and says he will offer his opinion next week.

Currently school officials and teachers make the decisions, and they insist that all books are carefully reviewed and those that are chosen are done so to expand students minds.

What do you think? Is this about censorship or decent morality? Who should decide what books teachers assign? teachers? parents? school board? the law makers? who? Before you respond, read the entire story titled "Howell Book Controversy", it's posted on the news page. You can also see Bill Gallagher's report from Thursday's Fox 2 News @ 5 p.m. show.

Then Sound Off, and share your comments in this blog. Some of them may be used on the air during a Fox 2 News broadcast.
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Tallmanok2 read my blog view my photos
Mar 1, 2007 | 6:00 PM

These works are classics and the kids can turn on a TV or Radio and hear far worse things. It's time to stop capitulating to a few upset individuals

shockhazard read my blog view my photos
Mar 1, 2007 | 6:08 PM

Well , first , who pays the taxes for that school ? Second , who pays the teachers checks ? third , who pays the law makers ? Fourth , who pays the prosecutor ? fifth , who pays the school board ? The answer is simple , the parents of the children that attend that school . And if none of the above recipients of tax payers money disagree , they should be fired . We the people are the boss , we pay the checks , if you disagree with who pays your check , your fired [thank you Donald Trump ].

ncognegro69
Mar 1, 2007 | 6:11 PM

Vicki Fyke needs to mind her own busines....better yet, get some business. The books listed on Fox2 News are classics and books that have been read for too many years. I know I read them in school over 20 years ago. The problem with society NOW is that too many people are TOO concerned with those things that have nothing to do with them. Taking this issue to government officials is RIDICULOUS and a total waste of tax payers money. My opinion is that if these people who feel that church should be taken out of school and parents should not spank their children and now you should not read classics that have been on all Public and Private school book lists should ask themself what they are going to do as the world keeps worsening due to their intrusions and opinions which are subjective, at best.

brittanicaa read my blog view my photos
Mar 1, 2007 | 6:19 PM

I graduated highschool 2 years ago and i read half the books listed and then some. In my honest opinion reading them is part of the english learning process. No one should be able to limit what teens read. They should be happy that they want to read. What happened to the country that all of a sudden literature must be censored. People that read these books have an understanding that in whatever time the book was written, that is what was going on. Its not fair that kids arent allowed to read some of the best books literature has to offer us because some parents are afraid of having to talk to there kids and explain what rape and incest or anything in that matter may be.

juliaq2
Mar 1, 2007 | 6:21 PM

I cannot believe in this day and age of higher education that we are still subjected to these Hitler-esk opinions. Where have you been for the last 20 years?! These books are supposed to stimulate a persons imagination, not let it stagnate. Why are we allowing a few shallow individuals make decisions that don't even effect them...except in thier need to control those around them...I bought a "Happy Meal" but it didn't make me happy....should I start a federal case?!? When will it stop??? this stupidity?!?

Jamie4285
Mar 1, 2007 | 6:36 PM

This is just stupid.. i graduated in 03.. kids were havin sex in middleschool when i was a senior, a book isnt going to cause any more problems then whats already there, at least they are reading

ccrider13
Mar 1, 2007 | 6:42 PM

I think those people ought to look in the dicionary under censorship.Find something worth worring about, like keeping kids off drugs.

miproedge read my blog
Mar 1, 2007 | 6:51 PM

Here is my take on all of this: 1. There will always be someone, somewhere who doesn't like something their child is learning in school; 2. I think we have bigger problems in our schools than what books are being read (thank you Jamie4285 for your insight on children in middle school having sex); 3. As a teacher of higher education it never ceases to amaze me that MBA students still cannot write properly.

Perhaps if everyone read more books they would learn to write and speak better, and they would also learn that there are many different aspects to this world of ours. We cannot go through life pretending things do not exist. If we do not like an action someone has taken the time to write about, perhaps we should do something to prevent the action instead of the written word.

irishgirl71 read my blog
Mar 1, 2007 | 6:57 PM

My kids go to Howell schools and I do not have any issues with any kids reading these books. The stuff that is shown on T.V., on the radio and in everyday life is just as bad if not worse then what is in the books. It is the values that are taught at home that will influence kids, not a book. Maybe the people opposed to the books should raise their kids in a bubble to protect them from harmful things.

colt19112 read my blog view my photos
Mar 1, 2007 | 7:20 PM

wow Tall that would go for the values of the minority that the left tries to push on everyone else.. CAN I SAY I SEE THAT LIBERAL DOUBLE STANDARD

OHHHHHH YOU BET I CAN AND DID

SailAway
Mar 1, 2007 | 10:51 PM

This is about decent morality, a line that slips farther and farther out with each generation. And we wonder why kids in middle school today are having sex? Could there be any correlation between this and the fact that some of these books have been used in our public schools during the past 20 years? If people are truly in favor of not censoring any reading materials for students, then what would stop a teacher from assigning Playboy for the "great articles"? If the teachers, administrators and school board won't take a stand for decent morality in this area, then we shoudn't be surprised when concerned community members have nowhere else to turn except legal recourse. Our kids are worth the fight.

lilchatterbox44
Mar 1, 2007 | 11:34 PM

I'm in high school and I LOVE to read. I love it and I read everything, and if this Viki Fyke gets her way, all we'll be able to read are stories about The Little Engine That Could and The Happiest Little Elf! In my generation, not enough kids enjoy reading or even understand the importance of it! And by her sticking her nose into a place where it doesn't belong makes her look just dumb and very uneducated, and depending who you ask, wrong and mean.

Has she even read any of the books? What does she exactly think about them? What did she think about the books that she had to read in high school? What books does she read now? She keeps talking about how all of the books exploit pornography and violence and bad words. Well I got news for her!!!! Because every single book mentions it in some way. And in the books all it says is "sh**" and "da**" and "crap" and stuff like that! It's not EVEN CLOSE to the worse words that a ton of the people alive today say. And a lot of the words were invented in her time and before her time! Kids say worse things, think worse things, and DO worse things!!!!!!!!!

I don't think that she has any idea of what she's talking about! If the school boards ban all of the books that she wants banned then we won't have any books left in the school libraries! And, if the kids really want to read them then they'll go and read them, they'll buy them in a book store or find them some other place. If the FEDs agree with her then I won't be able to read in school anymore because I don't read books about The Happiest Little Elf and Snow White (which buy t

lilchatterbox44
Mar 1, 2007 | 11:43 PM

Just because you (SailAway) believe that "decent morality" is slipping away with each generation (which is true for some people- but NOT all)doesn't mean that it's the books fault! It's that parents' fault, the kid's friends, older siblings, the news, things going on in the world!! Just because YOU don't like what's going on in the world doen't mean that you need to take it out and blame it all on the great literature and classics of people who came before us! What?!?! Aer we going to ban Shakespear's Romeo and Juilet because Romeo comits suicide when he thinks that Juilet is dead and then she wakes to find him dead, she comits suicide! Are we going to ban that?!?! All books are great liturature, and classic books, and if you have a problem with the books then DON'T read them!

ncognegro69
Mar 2, 2007 | 6:42 AM

I totally agree with you, lilchatterbox44. It is most definitely the parents responsibility to raise their offspring properly. Instead of parents taking on that responsibility, they want to blame their childs incorrigible behavior on teachers, surrounding, others and as we can see, something as ignorant as book selection. Things really need to get back to how they used to be when children were reared by their parents instead or MTV, VH1 and BET.

Ratt_Killer read my blog view my photos
Mar 2, 2007 | 8:40 AM

Burn every book! Destroy every CD! Nuke every video! Indoctrinate all the kids to only one belief and one idea! This will lead America in becoming the educational leaders of the world. Place swastika's on the arms of children at birth. Bring on the facist form of government.
PS. I am being facetiuos. You parents need to get a life and an education.
Ratt

muchhappier read my blog
Mar 2, 2007 | 8:47 AM

Such wisdom lilchatterbox from someone so young. They can blame the books, rap music, t.v., and the internet, but let's put the blame where it belongs. Morality starts at a very early age and is the responsibility of the parents to instill it into a child. So many parents put this responsibility into the hand of their child care (babysitter, daycare, pre-school, school system...etc) so they don't have to take the blame.

SailAway
Mar 2, 2007 | 10:20 AM

I agree with ncognegro69 that it is the parents responsibility to raise their children properly. That includes holding public schools accountable for what they teach when they have our children for 7+ hours a day. For the record, I do not agree with banning books. I am thankful for my right to freedom of speech and I respect the author's rights as well. This issue needs to be viewed within the context that these children are minors. The books in question should not be assigned by a teacher who is paid by me. If a parent wants their child to read any of these books for a graded assignment, they should be able to work with the teacher individually on this. And yes, lilchatterbox44 the issue of morality is much bigger than books alone. This just happens to be one area where parents have a say about what is acceptable or not. In fact, if parents truly took full responsibility for how they raise their children, they would be more involved in helping the PTO and teachers, and not just trusting that since their kids are at school, all is well.

sylviahubbard1 read my blog view my photos
Mar 2, 2007 | 11:11 AM

while she's at it, why don't you throw out every magic book because that could corrupt the mind and you can throw out the catcher and the rye. that book is violent and wrong.

While we're at it, you might as well throw out the Shakespeares and the Sylvia Platts. They have sexual matters that kids should not even be thinking about (incest, adultery and lust) plus suicidal.

The virgin diaries need to be tossed and let's not forget R.L. Tolkein who spoke dark languages to make demons arise from the dead.

sorry reality isn't filled with butterflies and rainbows but the books she's asking to be tossed addressed reality and you can't shield your child from that.

At least let them find out about it in a controlled environment with a great writer who can give it to them in the purest most beautiful form instead of pushing them out in the world and letting them see the ugliest side of it.

N2H20MI
Mar 2, 2007 | 1:10 PM

You might as well add our high school too because these books were on our reading list. You need to mind your own business & let the parents decide what is best for their children. You should work on getting drugs off the streets, not books.....

Tallmanok2 read my blog view my photos
Mar 3, 2007 | 4:17 AM

Sail so you think that the good of the few out weigh the good of the many? These kids will hopefully be going on to college would you want them to go to these institutions behind the other kids? Learning is a process we go through our whole lives and it's time for these kids to read these works.

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