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I remember the Detroit of the early 60's. A Detroit that was a wonderful place to run free and grow and learn. The Detroit that allowed me and my friends to come of age in the way god surely intended. Happy and care free. There were no warnings of sexual predators or horrific crimes against children in my childhood Detroit. No bullets whizzing through the air to ruin a summer day. No bodies in fields. No metal detectors in Goldberg elementary school on 12th and Vermont streets where I attended my first day of kindergarten. In my childhood Detroit I had a breakfast each morning before I went off to school. In my Childhood, mama got up and made sure we were in order before she got her day on the road. Daddy was already out the door to work and provide for his family in my Childhood Detroit. He stayed with his family of 8. He wasn't afraid to "man up."

In my childhood Detroit, I had to be in the house before the streetlights came on or else! No security guards in the basement of King Solomon Church on 14th street where I skated in the basement to Johnny Taylor's "who's making love?". My Detroit had doo wop on the corner in hopes that the crooners could run on down 14th street to the Boulevard looking to get into Motowns Hitsville USA. Barry Gordy was the man back then. They didn't do rap battles where you shoot and kill the winner. My childhood Detroit had Whites record shop where I bought my first Jackson 5 song , I want you back.

In my Detroit as a pre teen, I remember getting on the Fenkell bus in front of Miss. Ruths store on the corner of 14th and Stanley and riding it all the way downtown to make a 45 record at the penny arcade. Going into J.L.Hudson's and taking an elevator ride to The Picadilly Circus restaurant or to see the Christmas display. Sitting in the Adams or the Palms all afternoon watching movies was fun too. Bicycle and horse riding on clean, serene quiet Belle Isle park while my father sat in deep thought with his fishing pole in the water. What great fun it was walking miles in a crowd 15 or 20 kids to Kelsey swimming pool near the Wayne State University campus. Just to frolic and swim. We didn't have all the "stuff" that we reward our children with today. We loved the fresh air and sunshine. Little did we know that the exercise was good for us as well. I can't remember any kid not smiling and happy in my childhood Detroit memory.

My memories are grand ones. I so wish that the kids that live in my Detroit today could enjoy Soul Day at Northwestern by the big cannon. Then run across Grand River to Peppys and grab a burger. Man oh man, they wouldn't believe the concerts at Olympia Stadium. They would not believe you could go to a concert there for $5.00 and see 5 to 7 of the hottest acts on stage. That was a good time!

The kids of the now Detroit would not believe that there was no I-96. Would they believe that I played in the "big hole" that was to be the Jeffries freeway . In my childhood Detroit , you could smell the wonderful aroma of bar be que on summer holidays. If you stood in y
our backyard and looked either way in my childhood Detroit you would see a pit smoking in every yard and the sweet sound of soul music streaming through the air and yes, families. Really families! Stevie singing "I was made to love her, worship and adore her, yeah, yeah yeah." If only they would not have started calling me a BLEEP in song. ....I like what Stevie said better.

Then came 1967 and my Detroit changed. I saw tanks on 14th and Stanley instead of the Mr. Frosty ice cream truck. My Detroit had guys sitting on the stoop with their heads down and my father said " them boys on that dope." "Damn shame." I watched my wonderful and grand Detroit start to change. I learned a whole lot between 1967 and 1969 and it wasn't pretty......... The pusher became the man and It never was the same.

Daddy, what did Mama mean when she said STRESS just killed another boy? Mama , what do you mean he OD'ed on dope? Mama why did someone paint on that building "Free Bobby", Free Huey?" Mama, I like that song "war, what is it good for, absolutely nothing." But what does it mean ?

I remember the exact period when my Detroit childhood changed.

Now just look at my" Beautiful Grand Detroit. " Absolutely no resemblance to what it once was and absolutely no indication that it could ever be "Beautiful Grand Detroit: again

Now here we are. What do we do ? It's like a love affair that has died, but you still have your memories of what it was and you smile although you know you will never love that way again.

Most of the senior politicians (45 and over) who are native to Detroit probably remember the Detroit of my childhood. What say you about the Detroit of my childhood and what it has become? I no longer live in Detroit. It was a matter of survival and finance. I admit I sometimes feel a tinge of guilt for deserting her for suburban living. Especially with the current administration running amok and running her deeper and deeper into the ground Alas, Detroit you unfortunately left me no choice.
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ReverendCirca53 read my blog view my photos
Apr 22, 2008 | 2:01 AM

If you had lived on the East Side you would remember the boat horns coming from the river late at night...It was cool........Or the fruit men and their wagons coming through the neighborhood on Sat. mornings, and cracking open an apple sideways to show you the star that was hidden inside, and he'd give you the apple. They would leave a bag of your favorite fruit or Veggies in the milk-chute if they missed you and you would pay them next week. Or the coal man backing up in the drive, and you'd have to open the hatch so he could fill the bin in the basement......

Longshot read my blog view my photos
Apr 22, 2008 | 3:38 AM

Ceelo2.

Your Thread said it exactly as mine. Only yours with words and mine with pictures. In Reality they both said the same thing.
I remember another Detroit & This is the city I grew up in. Are one and the same. But I like your quote, It's like a love affair that has died. The young don't realize how much we miss THAT Detroit. And how we wish it was that again. I was Born at 14th & W. Grand Boulevard, I grew up on the east side Conners/ Harper Area. And spent as much time at the other Grandmother W. Chicago/ Greenfield Area.

Like Words and Muse. I think you'd enjoy the View. You'll smile and cry at the same time, and long for it once again. You said it better than me. I'll remember your words, It's like a Love affair that has died. Those words couldn't have been any clearer.

http://community.myfoxdetroit.com/blogs/Longshot/2008/0
3/28/THIS_IS_THE_CITY_I_GREW_UP_IN2

Melanie714
Apr 22, 2008 | 4:45 AM

I remember that Detroit too!!! I wish there could be at least a tiny bit of hope left, but then I think...where do you begin...it only takes one person at a time and others will follow.

I grew up in Detroit and also remember the way my single mother of nine got up every morning and went to work to support her family,Oh and yes she was married when she had her children and yes she was a good mother and strict. We all behaved cause we knew what was coming if we didnt. \We didnt take anothers' property, if we wanted something we had to find a job and pay for it ourselves. I took a bus by myself or with my sisters to downtown, to school, to Northland, to the East side,at 11 y/o I got a job as a mother's helper and took the bus to my job. I went to Mackenzie High School and got an education I worked at the Dairy Queen right next to Mackenzie Iloved Detroit until the day my mother had to crouch down on the bus to avoid sniper fire. We left and have not been back

ceelo2 read my blog
Apr 22, 2008 | 8:12 AM

ReverendCirca53 - Oh yeah, I remember the fresh fruit wagon. The Fresh fish man and the rag man. Milk came from the Twin Pines truck. Our milkman was named Rusty. I can't believe I still remember his name. The milk actually came fresh in glass bottles with paper tops! Not of forget penny candy. Thanks for sparking yet another fond memory of "My Detroit Childhood."

ceelo2 read my blog
Apr 22, 2008 | 8:21 AM

Melanie714 - I graduated from Mackenzie. I know the Dairy Queen that you speak of in your comment. After class we would walk down Oakman to Royal's hamburger. If you had any money you could go to Grand River and Oakman and buy the latest fashions or shoe styles at Bakers or Butlers. There was no busing program then, so we walked home from school. By that time I lived near Tireman and Livernois. That was designated "cross the tracks" from The Big Mac neighborhood. Thanks Melanie

ceelo2 read my blog
Apr 22, 2008 | 9:05 AM

Longshot _ WOW !!! Simply great ! Thanks for that wonderful stroll down memory lane. Oh, the absolutely great memories in those pictures. Bill Kennedy at the movies, Rita Bell. I remember coming in from school and watching "swingin time with Robin Seymore. The Awry bakery on Tireman ! The Woolworth lunch counter was another place I frequented when I rode that bus downtown. Sams, crowleys and also the Good Housekeeping store ! I'm sitting here with such bittersweet memories of that era. I'm gonna call my sisters in Nevada and have them log on. They surely will get a kick out of those pictures. Thank you again.

realism4u2 read my blog
Apr 22, 2008 | 12:36 PM

Although I was a toddler in the early 60's, there are some of things posted here that I remember fondly. Twin Pines milk and Milky the Clown. The lunch counter at Woolworth and, of course, penny candy! Grant's department store, Great Scott supermarket, Genie's Weinies, etc.

I also remember the day our parents woke us up in the middle of the night, packed all of us kids in the car and drove us out of town. I remember seeing the glow of fires in the night sky and smelling the smoke as we headed out of Detroit and out of Michigan...our parents took us down south to live on a farm with relatives for the remainder of that summer.

Such a shame that a beautiful city like Detroit has been so neglected and abused over the years. What Detroit really needs is real leadership who can motivate not on ly the citizens of Detroit, but also the entire Southeast Michigan region to rebuild and "re-brand" Detroit.

With the exception of Dennis Archer's eight years, Detroit's leadership over the past three decades has polarized the region, with city and suburbs at cross purposes. Until that gets remedied, Detroit will continue to decay.

ceelo2 read my blog
Apr 22, 2008 | 4:27 PM

Exactly realism4u2. You guys are rekindling so many good memories. Now I'm remembering Great Scott, A&P and Cunningham drug stores.
I agree. Leadership that's sincere and dedicated to bringing the entire state of Michigan back to prosperity. We need leadership that's dedicated to bridging the gaps between all Michiganians. The divisive tactics that are being used in the area today by politicians and citizens alike is only adding to the downfall of the entire state. Where does our future lie ?

Longshot read my blog view my photos
Apr 23, 2008 | 1:12 AM

Your very welcome ceelo2.

marygrove read my blog
Apr 24, 2008 | 8:57 PM

Thanks everyone for sharing fond memories. I also remember Milky The Clown, Soupy Sales, Rita Bell. I remember the Good Humour Man in his white uniform riding the pedaled cart with the ringing bells. I loved the fresh milk and bread from the Twin Pines Milk man. I also remember the old German man who came around and sharpenend my grandmothers knives. We lived on Virginia Park and Hamilton and would walk or catch the bus to the New Center Theatre,watch the Ben Hur movie and stop at Sanders for a Vernor's float. We would go to the General Motors bldg. peek at the cars listen to our voices bounce off the tunnel to the Fischer Blg. The activities were endless. Gosh, it was G-R-E-A-T.

PessimisticOptimist read my blog
Apr 25, 2008 | 1:59 PM

Yeah, and Mr. Softee, the Bookmobile and the swim mobile. Block club parties and playing in the alley (of all places). I remember the yellow Twin Pines milk truck with the pine trees on the side of it. We used to actually have a truck come by and fill our furnace with coal too!!!! Imagine that!!!! We'd walk down Chalmers to 7 Mile to the 7-11 that was there. To drive through and see that area now....it's like attending a funeral for one of your dearest friends. There were no vacant or burned out houses or vacant lots where property once stood. And the Sanders on Gratiot....the caramel cake, fresh ice cream and cookies....better than nostalgia!!!!!

Sad that those of us who lived and enjoyed living in those wonderful days will have to scramble to move to an area where our children can at least play outdoors without gun battle and stray bullets threatening lives.

Ceelo2....those are such great memories - boy how I miss those days!

taxing read my blog
Apr 25, 2008 | 3:29 PM

I too remember that old Detroit and i want it back. most of the same folk that were living here then, are living here now. we just forgot.
hey and by the way soul day still goes on, but it's nothing like it was when we were young.
i believe we will get the old detroit back as soon as we remember, and stop being afraid of this corrupt city government

ceelo2 read my blog
Apr 26, 2008 | 11:01 PM

PessimisticOptimistic

Yes, playing in the alley. A person would have to be there to understand how much fun that was. Kickball and four square. Jacks, hop scotch and baseball. loved every minute of it.

My kids laugh to think that their prissy, cutesy mom was once a total tomboy.

My father installed a pot belly wood burning stove in the middle of the dining room. The pipe would fall from time to time and we would have a house full of smoke and soot. He meant well :) I imagine that was his way of contending with the rising cost of fuel in the 60's.

ceelo2 read my blog
Apr 26, 2008 | 11:07 PM

taxing - I had no idea that Soul day was still going on! I'm sure you're right in saying "it's nothing like it was when we were young."

Is anything the same?

carolej60 read my blog view my photos
Apr 27, 2008 | 10:17 AM

I believe I know alot of you guys, and gals. My mother was a gypsy. Lol. We stayed all over Detroit. We were already on the westside when they tore Hastings down. The same time they were digging up I-96. My mother rented a bottom flat from Justice Damon Keith's Mother on Virginia Park. I went to Thirkell School. What a good life. Think you for bringing back those memories, and letting me know there are others out there like me. lol

ceelo2 read my blog
Apr 27, 2008 | 11:50 AM

carolej60 ,

yes, we are out here shaking our heads. Don't you wish your children and grandchildren could just get a glimpse of what it's like to have what we had in the "good old days?"

lebozmann47
Apr 27, 2008 | 2:21 PM

Those were the days I grew up on the Eastside too in th late 50's and 60's. use to walk on Sat to the Northtown theater. took the buses to downtown to Hudsons. We went and played at Derby Hill and watch the soap box racing

ceelo2 read my blog
Apr 27, 2008 | 4:57 PM

lebozmann47,

Don't you just smile at those memories? Every now and then something will spark a memory and take me back....... Yep, we had it good. Young, fun and fancy free !

former_detroiter read my blog view my photos
Apr 27, 2008 | 5:20 PM

Beautiful! I remember the fruit truck, Twin Pines and the boat horns. I only lived a couple of blocks off of the river. How about those nasty fish flies every year or the big black water bugs? Ewwwwwww sooooooo crunchy!lol

carolej60 read my blog view my photos
Apr 28, 2008 | 8:55 AM

Belle Isle was really a treat. It was nothing the Island didn't have. concession stands you could ride your Canoe's up to. The Buggy rides, horse back riding, bike renting. The bike's built for two. Eastwood Park on Gratiot and Eight Mile. I could go on, and on. We have a lot of new things in Detroit, but I would be scared to send my Grandkids by their selfs anywhere. We lined up every Saturday for show fare and disappeared all day. We didn't get in trouble because everybody knew us, and we knew everybody. The Northend was were I was born but we moved all over Detroit. I graduated from Northwestern High School in 1960, and years later my Youngest son went to Northwestern and graduated from Mackenzie High. Not to sound too corny , but those were the days! lol

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ceelo2

I'm a honest and hardworking business owner. I am a native Detroiter who now resides in a suburban community. My proudest and greatest accomplishments are my children. I am honest to a fault. Definitely opinionated. Respectfully so. I live my life each day according to the golden rule. I believe it takes more energy to be negative and cynical than to stay positive and open minded. I stay clear of those that focus on problems rather than solutions. My father was my hero. I thank god for him each and every day.

Member Since: 3/11/2008