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There is a stark difference in receiving immediate care for most health issues and the ultra-expensive medical procedures used to treat cancer or any other chronic or degenerative disease. Medicaid does not cover expensive procedures, and while the statistics presented above represent the costs of medical care among rich and poor, it says nothing about life-saving medicine and the costs involved.

Det.Lover, I have had 9 major surgeries on my spine and a regimen of 35 radiation treatments, and chemotherapy. Medicaid has covered their share of everyhing and the costs to me have been minimal. You need to know how the system works is all an not allow the system to work you.

Also you say Nolan only uses facts that support his positions. That sounds a little hypocritical coming from you.

Jax- I meant he picks and chooses particular facts. He doesn't present the opposite argument.

So, let me get this straight, you are suggesting that you are on medicaid? This from the same person who jumped on the "spreading the wealth" bandwagon, and outright support for a republican agenda? Unbelievable.
Do you not know that is a social program? You know, a liberal ideal? Oh, wait, let me guess, just like Joe the plumber, who has gotten medical and financial support from the government, you probably feel as though since you paid into it you are entitled to it more than lets say a single mom, right?
Don't get mad, just an observation. I must say, the hypocrisy on these blogs is incredible.

According to republicans, your fate is your problem. I'll assume you worked for someone else, if that is the case, then hey, why don't you get off your butt and start your own business, after all, that is the American, conservative, capitalist way.
They, conservatives, state that nothing is owed to you. That is entitlement. Entitlements are wrong, remember. You are taking rich folks money, remember, they pay the majority of taxes, the same taxes that are now spent on medicaid. You can't have it both ways jax. There is no clarity on separation of taxes paid in. And you yourself support less taxation on rich folks, so it stands to reason that if that value you hold so dear were implemented, I am afraid you would be one of the millions of Americans without healthcare. Those are the facts.

The hypocrisy, as you put it DL is quite obvious with you too; Most certainly, this post reflects that past condition of the health care issues and only asks that it be adjusted to help those that you first claimed couldn't receieve help. Michigan's ABW (Adult Benefit Waiver) program alone will make sure that 20-year old mother who has never worked receive needed medical services. Actually, a 20 year old mother with child would be first in line for state benefits for the child's sake. I ask this simple question: If you had been working steadily, been injured either at work or on your own time, and needed medical help wouldn't you seek out the same services? Or do Democrats just plain do it some different way? And as you put it in so many words above how is being a Republican anyone's problem in regards to healthcare? I honestly need to know how you can differentiate a political affiliation makes people think & act different in health care issues. You kind of make it sound like a Democrat not only heals faster but dosen't require the very entitlements that you may need some day (Let's hope not). I'm certain you know many that receive Medicaid, Medicare & State ABW & I don't think you would like to see them cut off, just as I know the same. In my opinion your statement that if people don't pay into it they are not entitled contributes to the myth this post speaks about. That's not hypocrisy to me, that's a very poor comparison on your part, DL. So feel free to ask me to elaborate & I believe I can give you a perfect example of how the system works for those that were indeed

In my rough days before recovery, (not saying they are not rough now but easier lol), I began to change my life for the better. I came to Macomb county almost 5 years ago & entered the MCREST shelter system. I had nothing but the clothes on my back. Because I could use their address as my residence, (which it was legally), I attempted to get State medical help. Aty that time, Michigan had suspended the ABW program, closing enrollment, so I had to go to free clinics. I was able to enter the Eastwood Clinic, a 21 day inpatient recovery program & left clean. I then began to make my climb up. I stayed in tents, outside but at the same time seeked work to survive. I eventually met my now wife & was allowed to come back to the construction company that had fired me twice for alcoholism/addiction issues. At that time, I was clean for well under a year. Regina & I eventually saved enough money to get into weekly motels and to the point of our apartment we live in by the lake now. In July of 2006, I was injured at work>

One thing to add, though, you said:

"You do indeed make many good points but a few of them seem to have no basis & can be easily debated."

(1) Be specific and I will respond. [usually with inquisition so I can learn]
(2)I don't think you should be touting about what is debatable. Much of what you post is opinion, and opinion without support, I might add. I don't seek to discredit your opinion, in a debate forum, rather, suggest what mine is. I will say this, if there is something that I remark, without support, I am open to being informed with facts so that I can appreciate that I may be wrong. How many people can you say that about on here? Not many. Too many "legend in their own mind" folks who do not want to engage in debate and simply spout off that it is their "opinion" and that is it. That is closed-minded and does nothing for gaining knowledge. To state that "it is my opinion" without having an argument, on your side, to support it, isn't really an opinion at all. Opinions are formed based on knowledge. Legitimate ones, anyway.

My remarks:
"To state that "it is my opinion" without having an argument, on your side, to support it, isn't really an opinion at all. Opinions are formed based on knowledge. Legitimate ones, anyway."

Aren't necessarily directed directly at you, per say, rather people in general.

and was immediately placed on Workmen's Comp & allowed to use my BlueCare Netwok; In December of that same year, my Comp case was disputed by the employer's insurance company, claiming that the work injury was due to past medical issues concerning my back, which as you will see was later settled on. I was left with no medical insurance & no income whatsoever. But good fortune came that following year in January of 2007, when the State reopened the ABW insurance. So I now was able to get medical attention for my back and also supply proof for a Workmen's Comp case I had filed with a very reputable law firm (Zamler, Mellen & Shiffman). I won that case and received redemption. My Social Security case is pending as I am still medically unable to return to work due to standing/walking problems & sometimes intense pain in my lower back, along with numbness in my left leg. My point is this: As the above view by Mr. Finlay says, the lower class is quite able to get medical attention, along with unwed mothers, people that haven't worked a day in their life & even those with income if they meet the guidelines. The healthcare system as it stands today does need clarification in regards to the examples you first pointed out but not a complete overhaul. Otherwise, if these vital programs are cut in any fashion the ones that do genuinely need healthcare may not get it. Maybe my partuclar case won't apply to those that haven't worked but I believe I proved that this post relates a certain fact, that the healthcare system needs attention in critical areas, not completely dismantled, then r

Incidentally, I have to include this point & a correction in my timeline above-The point between when I was cut off by the employer insurance company and when I received ABW, I was covered by a county health plan called Macomb Care Connect, which is also in other counties by their county name. The date that I stated the State ABW plan was reinitiated was January of 2008, not 2007. I went a year without employment, in need of medical assistance & still was able to receive it. I am quite certain that if virtually anyone has a medical attention need, because of my past experiences I could advise them how to get it. When I was in the shelter system, I was allowed to give open speeches to the others & pass out literiture, contact numbers, etc to help them achieve not only healthcare but housing, employment, food/clothing and much more. When time permits & both as a part of my giving back and being the right thing to do, I will ask that same shelter if I can speak to those in their care; Hopefully spreading the message that their is always hope & always help if they want it, work for it and do the right things.