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Defeat Of Proposal 8 Morally Correct
Nov 6, 2008 | 3:28 PM
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So Ellen Degeneres is heart-broken; So the union of 18,000 married gay couples in California is in jeopardy, I say good for the voters! My personal opinion of this issue sides with that vote. I look at it from a moral perspective, noting that our First Amendment rights do guarantee the freedom to choose but not be twisted into this form of expression, especially publicly. I do enjoy the Ellen show but wish people that choose to be gay, lesbian whatever don't use their power in the media/public eye to promote their lifestyle. I'm certain many can choose to be offended by this landmark decision; I just don't want our children neither exposed to this nor encouraged that this is a correct way of life at such a young age. I often wonder how any gay couple can consider their vows sacred if they don't have the option of raising a family, which most do & have been doing since time began. Then, to involve their children from a past marraige & expose them to the fact they may never have an actual mother/father figure in the home is simply disgusting to me. Just as the majority ruled in this landmark election, so too did the voters of California. As far as I am concerned, it was never Adam & Steve, but Adam & Eve. If people wish to exercise their First Amendment rights in this fashion, they should also be prepared to be under the scrutiny of others that believe it is simply not acceptable-I don't honestly believe our First Amendment was meant to be misconstrued in this fashion as the generations keep finding ways to defy the very moral principles they could have been raised on.  If they choose to live this alternative lifestyle, it should be kept out of the public eye because there are just as many if not more that agree it is pathetic & sickening to see, especially by curious young ones that see it & think it is right. What do you think?
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DetroitLover9550 read my blog view my photos
Nov 6, 2008 | 4:41 PM

How does gay marriage affect your everyday life? Children are not suddenly going to turn gay because they see gay rights issues discussed on tv, or if they see two men holding hands, or two woman doing the same.

How sad is it for the child who knows that they don't like members of the opposite sex and don't know why? How sad is it that they cannot be themselves because of the way society and possibly their parents preach hate against it? How sad is it that religion all around them tells them they are sinners and not worthy of love because of the way they feel? What about those children, car? Or don't they matter? Have you yourself ever talked to a gay person? Have you yourself ever bothered to think that it isn't a choice for them, as you insinuate? You are ignorantly biased on this issue. Morals, yeah, right. Now gay people don't have morals? You couldn't be any further from reality about homosexuality if you tried. You don't have to like it, but just the same, they don't have to tolerate intolerance either, that is their right.
DetroitLover9550 read my blog view my photos
Nov 6, 2008 | 4:41 PM

Homosexuality is not a choice. It is who they are. They are human beings. They have rights. The same rights as you and I. Maybe you are one of those people who think that gay people are the way they are because of the devil, huh? I would remark, to you, that if that is the case, then it is the devil who is responsible for addictions and that there shouldn't be any tolerance for it. Chew on that one for a while. You talk hateful, and it is wrong. These are human beings car, human beings. Flesh and blood. Deserving of life, liberty and the pursuit of anything they want.
DetroitLover9550 read my blog view my photos
Nov 6, 2008 | 4:43 PM

"...especially by curious young ones that see it & think it is right."

If a child sees it and thinks it is right? Does that mean they will want to be gay? That is an absurd assumption.
car7858 read my blog view my photos
Nov 6, 2008 | 5:31 PM

I can agree that they can be guaranteed the same rights as anyone, as long as it is mot paraded in front of the public as some type of normal way of life; Because in my opinion, it is not. My point is that an impressionable child or teen should not have to have someone in the media making this lifestyle seem like some type of norm. If it is acceptable to them, let them not try to impress that on the public.It is not hateful of me to also have the right not to see two guys/women necking & groping in my sight. The vote in Cali speaks for itself, I would say. I have to admit I wasn't specific enough with how a child observes this type of behavior. But your statement that a child seeing this may want to be gay is also not as specific either. Children & teens are well known to imitate adult behavior, whether it be correct or not. I wouldn't say it is any devil's work but some type of insanity that until recent times in America was indeed considered immoral. It may be their choice but I don't care to see it waved in front of those that are naive to it, then seemingly "recruit" through the media and public displays. That's my point. Again, the majority of the voters there seem to agree with me, at least on the marriage part of it. I honestly don't care to associate with that form of "freedom of expression". Bottom line, I agree with the vote in Cali. Calling me ignorant or saying I'm ignorant to the issue makes me believe I don't have the right to my opinion about it, according to you.
gonowkwam read my blog view my photos
Nov 6, 2008 | 5:35 PM

so where do you draw the line detroit? shall we encourage and embrace adultry? how about beastiality? maybe a little pedophilia is in order...after all we wouldn't want to deny anyone their rights now would we? ALL human beings sin...and we shouldn't be expected to embrace the sin. Deserving of life, liberty and the pursuit of anything they want. Oh really? Anything they want? Think about that for awhile...that is a silly thing to say.
LeMay14 read my blog view my photos
Nov 6, 2008 | 5:46 PM

"Homosexuality is not a choice. It is who they are."

You know he's right Car. Its like a birth defect.

Because its not natural.

Quick fact, according to ABC news, minority's overwhelmly voted against this.

"California's black and Latino voters, who turned out in droves for Barack Obama, also provided key support in favor of the state's same-sex marriage ban. Seven in 10 black voters backed a successful ballot measure to overturn the California Supreme Court's May decision allowing same-sex marriage, according to exit polls for The Associated Press."

"More than half of Latino voters supported Proposition 8, while whites were split. Religious groups led the tightly organized campaign for the measure, and religious voters were decisive in getting it passed. Of the seven in 10 voters who described themselves as Christian, two-thirds backed the initiative. Married voters and voters with children strongly supported Proposition 8. Unmarried voters were heavily opposed."

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2008/11/70-of-afr
ican-a.html
LeMay14 read my blog view my photos
Nov 6, 2008 | 5:54 PM

Correction: LA times not ABC
car7858 read my blog view my photos
Nov 6, 2008 | 6:01 PM

OK, I can respect the claim that it is a birth defect and if that's the case, why is it paraded on TV, gay rights parties/parades through our streets, and pushed by those that have this "defect"? That is my point, regardless of how the numbers break down. They are still American voters at the end of the day & as far as the gay marriage issue is concerned in California, I am thankful for their judgement. If it is indeed a "birth defect" then why is it made to look normal to the public? Grown gays, etc that have this "defect" are still recruiting & promoting it-I wouldn't want any of my children, young teens or friends influenced in this manner to become gay, etc. If it is indeed a defect, I pray no one I know & associate with "catches it". If that sounds ludicrous to anyone, remember it is my choice & my opinion & shared by many-Take California for good example.
bye-byeMI read my blog view my photos
Nov 6, 2008 | 9:07 PM

Well Car, it didn't pass here in Florida either.

D_L, I can't remember her name, but there's a blogger that doesn't want Hugh, I think that's his name, around her child because he's gay. That's her right don't you think? I agree with her.
For myself, I really don't care.
car7858 read my blog view my photos
Nov 6, 2008 | 10:31 PM

People do have that choice also, bye; It's not that he's a bad person but the influence of him around her child, coupled with the obvious risk of STD's (that the gay community does contribute to the most, I believe), not to mention the ridicule a child in that particular situation could suffer in school, the community, etc, she made a decision in the best interests of her child. Then again, I don't know their story & it could be just as easy as he lied to her about it. I'll quit grasping at their straws & stick to my opinion in general.
Mikey66 read my blog view my photos
Nov 7, 2008 | 12:33 AM

IM GLAD THE H00M00S CANT GET MARRIED
midevil read my blog
Nov 7, 2008 | 5:06 AM

LOL, not only is DetroitLicker6969 a blind sheep DEMOCRAPPER, but he's an educated "black gay man"........

We knew something was up with the "rainbow boy".

GET HIM MIKEY............
midevil read my blog
Nov 7, 2008 | 5:07 AM

Where's Shock's TUBE-O-LUBE?

DetroitLicker6969 is going to have to order a few hundred cases.
DetroitLover9550 read my blog view my photos
Nov 7, 2008 | 6:37 AM

Not one response to the situation presented about a gay child themselves...where is the intellectual observation of that reality?
You are talking about heterosexual teens and young children being influenced, I am talking about teens and young children who are gay, and how they have to contend with that.
This intolerance here is no different than intolerance that paved the road to civil rights. Can't you see the hypocrisy? Of course not, this is different, right? NOT. Hate is hate.
Mid- so nice to see you again.
midevil read my blog
Nov 7, 2008 | 8:10 AM

OMG, here we go again with DetroitLicker6969's analogy of a post. Yes, the post is about GAY MARRIAGE's and HOMOSEXUALITY.

Tell us O Great One, what does civil rights break down to state that the reaction of a minority voted down by a majority, has to be an issue?
A MAJORITY VOTED....ACCEPT IT and GET OVER IT.

Wasn't this exactly what was said about HUSSEIN NOBAMA's win?

Didn't a Majority override a Minority?

And you tell us to get over it?

What part of hypocrisy don't "YOU UNDERSTAND"?

Aren't you supposed to be our worst enemy, you know, the "educated gay black man"????
shockhazard read my blog view my photos
Nov 7, 2008 | 8:29 AM

I don't give a sh!t what they do in California-cation . They'll all be swimming someday anyway .
As far as Ellen's show goes , it sucks , like she doesn't !
I'm sure my Tube-O-Lube sales will remain high on the east coast .
Thanks for the plug there Mid !
car7858 read my blog view my photos
Nov 7, 2008 | 8:59 AM

DetLover-How you compare this to the civil rights road is quite insane to me & I believe you should see that difference. Maybe my post shows alot of my personal feelings on the subject of gays, but guess what?-I'm allowed to do that, to have my opinion on any given issue just as you are. I don't believe it's takes intellect or a person with degrees to formulate an opinion based on what they see & hear & believe in. It may present certain studies & create an intelligent argument but I do notice that the ones that claim to be intellectuals, have degrees, etc seem to think those that don't have these qualifications are not entitled to their opinions. As far as children are concerned, I believe one response here states how a woman left her male comapnion because she found out he was gay & she did have a child. Haven't you ever seen children & young teens, with all of the curisity in the world imitate adult behavior in your lifetime? I believe the ramifications of a gay couple seen by children & young teens are alot worse than seeing what most see-A man & a women kissing, a man & a women getting married, and potentially a man & a woman raising a family. Again, my post may have covered the whole issue of my opinion on gays, but in reality the voters spoke in California & Florida on the issue of gay marraiges. That's taking their freedom of expression a bit too far in my opinion. As for your statement concerning civil rights, I believe the majority of American voters made a gigantic step towards equality with their ballots. The issue of racism in America won't be solved overnight

car7858 read my blog view my photos
Nov 7, 2008 | 9:08 AM

And to recap your statement hate is hate; Racial tensions are alot different to the gay issue but many always want to use other's opinions as some type of measuring stick to make some type of point-Please explain why? So you believe that only young children & teens are not affected by this? Please elaborate on that statement with your "facts" & I would appreciate it if you could leave the civil rights comparisons out of it. If your "educated" claim is it dosen't affect them, why would they grow up to think it can be spread to others, like it is some type of normal living? I'm not really talking about the ones that have this "defect" already, I'm talking about the ones that don't & shouldn't be subjected to the exploitation of it. I honestly believe your comparison to anything that happened in the civil rights movement with the gay issue is absurd and shows more of an opinion on race rather than a formulated opinion on the gay issue. That's my opinion.
gonowkwam read my blog view my photos
Nov 7, 2008 | 9:28 AM

hey detroit....not one response to where do you draw the line? How about it? Anything goes? or should we maybe exercise some moral restraint? if you choose anything goes than be prepared. maybe joe the racist wants to have a restraunt which doesn't serve blacks. it's not morally right, but what the heck...he should be free to do as he pleases right? or how about peter the porn star....shouldn't be able to exercise his right by advertising his expertise..ya maybe he could hang out by the schools and recruit little kids for his movies. after all this is America and we should all be free to do as we please right Detroit? chew on that for awhile...oh and btw...are YOU charles pugh?
bye-byeMI read my blog view my photos
Nov 7, 2008 | 9:58 AM

So D_L what's going on right now in California is good for you? They are targeting Churchs and marching in the streets. I have no issues with marching in the streets when they ask to do so, it's there right, but what they're doing now. It's truly amazing to me that when the people voted to ban same sex marriage and they lose they march in protest and want to go to court. It's other issue too, that I won't bring up in here.
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car7858

I am presently disabled due to a work injury in the construction field. I was born & raised in Detroit for over 40 years. I presently reside in Macomb County, in recovery since April 4, 2004. I tend to post & reply from actual experiences and topics that lean towards informing people about positive things, while making sure that the real story isn't lost in the shuffle. My posts & comments are my opinion, letting you be the judge based on the issue & current events. (Good ole Disclaimer stuff). I am all for America & Americans, but not for government control & political games. I enjoy corresponding with my fellow MyFox Detroit bloggers, being both a good talker & a good listener.

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