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I wonder how many people would admit to having an extra marital affair if they knew that not only would their spouse find out, but they would be Fired from their job and risk jail time.

Im always excited to sit back and watch how hypocritical people become in such situations that other people have found themselves in.

The situation with Kwame Kilpatrick is nothing uncommon. Nor is it hardly in the ballpark with what President Bush and other political criminals are doing right now to the american people and innocent middle eastern people in iraq.

Yet the outrage and shoutouts for removal from office and/or even jail time for the criminal acts of president Bush is far below that of Kwame Kilpatrick. It gets real quiet when you start talking about the really big criminals of the world.

Im also shaking my head in awe at how so many non-detroiters are so involved with discussing the matter of the detroit mayor and what should be done as if they really care about the city of detroit and the welfare of the citizens of detroit. Who would you take advice from. Someone who cares for you or someone who hates you?

Everyday the media digs for anything they can to discredit and embarrass the mayor, just like they do everyday to detroiters. (Fox 2 just ran a story about KK in a 8th grade picture). Come on Fox 2 are you serious....an eight grade picture. I dont even remember everything i did in high school.

I know there are many who might be easily brainwashed, but im not one of them. I personally dont care about KK's affair no more than i cared about Bill Clinton's affair. I only care about the improvements of the city of detroit. The Mayor is no more guilty of using tax payers funds than any other politician. If your gonna go after one than you should go after all of them.

Kwame Kilpatrick broke the law and will have his day in court. Either way....

The city will move forward just like it did when non-detroiters tried to ruin Dennis Archer, and just like it did when non-detroiters tried to ruin Coleman Young.

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shockhazard read my blog view my photos
May 9, 2008 | 6:14 AM

You are brainwashed ! Completely cleansed . Void of substance .

SEEDUB read my blog view my photos
May 9, 2008 | 7:24 AM

Great post ThoughtManifest!!

In my opinion, most don't care, they just like to complain. If the city's doing good, or bad doesn’t matter to them, why should it, a lot who comment don’t live, or visit here, it's just something for them to talk about. I bet if you ask the loudest mouths, who talk about the city of Detroit’s issues haven’t been to the city in YEARS, and are the same people who want others to boycott Detroit! That just shows that some don’t want to do anything but “pile on” Detroit, because we are down. But, some people do have a lot of love for the city but, without real action it means squat! Most that talk, do just that, TALK! That applies to both city, and suburban residents. Right now Detroit is going through hard times, under poor leadership, just like America. But she’ll survive and become stronger than ever, just like the U.S.A..

One other thing the difference between Kwame, and Bush, is Bush isn’t going to be held responsible for any of his mistakes or misdeeds.

Tallmanok2 read my blog view my photos
May 9, 2008 | 8:01 AM

You are either on the Mayor's staff or that of his lawyer's, or a pr firm hired by the Mayor. It is amazing to me that you can skirt talking about the reality that the Kwame lied under oath, and Fired Good Officers who were Guilty of doing their jobs.

Rita50 read my blog
May 9, 2008 | 10:21 AM

I'm one of the "outsiders" but was raised in det. and just moved from 9 mile and van BLEEP in Nov. I have a opinion and will and have the right to state it. Just because people dont live in det. does'nt mean their not effected by your smug thug of a mayor, anyone in the state is by his misuse of taxpayers money because their are those that live elsewhere but pay city taxes spend money in the city etc. if it were'nt for the burb's kwame would'nt have as much tax money to misuse. i can't believe the level of stupidity that some detroiters show by defending this idiot and excusing his affair. How many people have to inform you people that it's not about the affair but the lie's that were concocted to cover the affair? Kwame's sister in one of the text said detroiters are stupid or idiot's [forget which word she used] I'm sure her and her brother are laughing at all you people every chance they get and I can't say I blame them.

Rita50 read my blog
May 9, 2008 | 10:30 AM

I have [ myself in the past] family and friends who help this arrogant piece of crap and his family afford to go on trips, buy expensive car's, suit's,dinner's etc. and now they are even helping with his expensive lawyer's anytime they spend or pay taxes in detroit. No telling how much he has scammed from taxpayers to live his lavish lifestyle. he's a crook and I hope he gets the max.

Rita50 read my blog
May 9, 2008 | 10:34 AM

if you live in Bellville as your post states, you must be a hypocrite,because you are definitly an outsider too.

sicktired read my blog
May 9, 2008 | 2:56 PM

Another good example including Eatbug that they live up to the Double D> Dumb Detroiters. When you stop using state money you can all waste the money you want. Any by the way eatbug people outside of Detroit spend a hell of a lot more money in Detroit than Detroiters.

cityblues read my blog
May 9, 2008 | 3:34 PM

All I can say is...WOW! What exactly would you have the people of Detroit do? Sit back and do nothing? Don't make their voices heard? That is what Kwame was hoping the "Idiots" would do...just let him do whatever he wants and never call him on it. You mention Bush, and I agree that he hasn't been held accountable for his actions, but what are you suggesting? should we just say..."Oh Bush did wrong, so it's o.k for Kwame to do wrong too"? You know that's foolish! Detroiters need to stop playing the victim role and take responsiblity for who they elect into office! Kwame is wrong...yes, for the affair...but he's in hot water for what he did to cover up the affair...funny how you skim over that part. Kwame is guilty of no less than black on black crime..and as usual...you want it to be o.k....and help him be the "Victim" in this! Black on Black crime is not OK...you are perpetuating the myth that when blacks hurt other blacks it's somehow acceptable...it's somehow ok because we share the same skin color....and as blacks we need to demand better instead of supporting someone who thinks of you as an 'Idiot"! I have seen kwame supporters do and say more outrageous things than any of his detractors...they compare him to Jesus...wrap him up in God...say he's being Lynched by the media....and the list goes on....How about holding him accountable? Maybe there are bigger fish to fry (Bush, clinton)but in this frying pan called Detroit...Kwame the BIG FISH needs to be held accountable!

SEEDUB read my blog view my photos
May 9, 2008 | 4:13 PM

city blues

your 100% correct I don't think he's trying to let Kwame off the hook. He should have his butt in the ringer, he lied under oath. I think this poster is just saying that Bush should be held accountable also. I don't think he meant that because Bush did wrong, so it's o.k. for Kwame to do wrong too. I think that bush should be held accountable for his wrong doing, just like any American.

THEY BOTH SHOULD BE PUNISHED!

Keiser26100 read my blog
May 9, 2008 | 4:21 PM

LOL ..I love how KK supporters use the whole sex scandal thing to get around the real issues KK has done.

1. bought a SUV for his wife with tax payer money then lied about it

2. As an attorney and Mayor (leader of the city) lied under oath.

3.Fired 2 police officers illegally(lied about it) and cost the citzens of detriot 8+ million dolaars and still counting.

4. Commited Adultry and lied about it under oath.( again he passed the BAR and holds his license to practice law.

5. Donated 30,000 dollars of his own money to help a school band to go to china for the olympics but is asking for help from the citzens to raise money for his leagl defense.

6. He can't even tell the truth about being in a play in middle school...and then says he didn't remeber..funny how everyone else in the play remembered.

7. Used tax payer dollars to take trips, fund his love affair.

8. Awarded contracts to freinds and family instead of doing it the right way and going with the lowest bidder.

While he is wearing his 1000 dollar suits and walking around with more security then the Mayor of New York City. your garbage isn't getting picked up. The streets aren't plowed in the city in the winter. I don't see him asking peole to raise money for that. Instaed he keeps wasting your tax dollars to try and make himself look better.

You must be on the mayor's payroll!

Keiser26100 read my blog
May 9, 2008 | 4:29 PM

And by the way Coleman young ruined himself. Remeber after he died and they found guns and other stuff he had taken from police departments. Coleman was a crook. And no one attacked Archer. He left because of the messed up city coucil. Another leech on the city of Detroit. Archer was the best hope this city had but the council would not let him get it done.

And alot of the stuff KK is taking credit for Archer put on the drawing table and got the ball rolling. KK just got in at the right time to make it look like it was him.

cityblues read my blog
May 9, 2008 | 7:35 PM

I agree seedub....there should be no discrepency in handing out punishments for corrupt politicians...at the same time...if one gets off that doesn't mean they all should. I think there are a lot of people who are up in arms over Bush....the key is getting the RIGHT people to be up in arms....the ones who CAN and WILL do something about it.

jax276 read my blog
May 9, 2008 | 7:46 PM

Thoughtmanifest- You sure didn't prove any thought manifested here. What a piece of work! You even made it sound like going after any and all corrupt politician's would be a bad thing. Cityblues said it, in Detroit, Kilpatrick is the big fish so he's the one (and as many of his slug posse we can dig up) that we need to fry. Also as keiser pointed out Coleman Young screwed himself. He turned his administration into "Tammany Hall." This city stagnated for twenty years under his tyranny at the absolute worst time. We needed to come together and rebuild after the riots and he did nothing. If someone like Dennis Archer would have stepped in then we would have a new progressive city today. Instead the corruption and waste continued, then chewed up and spit out Archer when he did come. Then Kilpatrick came along when everything was ripe for a slick con man. I want to see Detroit and as you say non Detroiters, what ever in the hell that means, come together and scream bloody murder. We have had enough with living with whatever scraps corrupt bottom-feeders like Kilpatrick and his cronies throw us. Maybe just maybe that jerk may just have done this city one big favor. He is, without knowing it, breaking down the walls that were so meticulous erected between the suburbs and the city proper by Coleman Young by giving us a united front. It has nothing to do with black and white but instead what's right and what's not.

I'm beginning now to question Kilpatrick's sanity. Everyone knows he's a crook and the longer he stays the more crap is going to be shoveled on him but he refuses to

jax276 read my blog
May 9, 2008 | 7:50 PM

leave. I also question your sanity for writing this blindly uninformed post.

ThoughtManifest read my blog
May 10, 2008 | 10:08 PM

Great reply SEEDUB. Your comments were genuine and expressed with an unbiased evaluation of not only the situation with the city of detroit and KK, but MORE IMPORTANTLY! with people in general. Its easy to see through people when you give them an opportunity to speak. Which is what i have done here.

The majority of the people completely avoided commenting on the crimes of George Bush and other politicians and government officials.
Especially when they are more affected by the crimes of Bush than by KK. People act like they dont even know what crimes George Bush has committed.

In fact! NO one replied on the first statement i made.
"I wonder how many people would admit to having an extra marital affair if they knew that not only would their spouse find out, but they would be Fired from their job and risk jail time".

No! Why? Simply because they wanted to keep it hypocritical!!!Completely avoiding the opportunity to analize their own character and true intent. Avoiding it and acting as if it didnt exist. Just like acting as if i didnt say in my post:

"If your gonna go after one than you should go after all of them". and "Kwame Kilpatrick BROKE the law and will have his day in court".

I keep it real and absolutely fair. Im not a hypocrite. I honestly can care less about KK lying about who he had sex with.

On the bigger picture. President Bush is our problem. Why? lets see. hmmm!
-The lying which started the war.
-The dying soldiers, because of his lying.
-The gas prices skyrocketing because of his oil company friends.

I betcha the same people go

bye-byeMI read my blog view my photos
May 11, 2008 | 8:33 AM

WOW, when will you people stop blaming the Federal Government for your city problems? It's truely amazing.

Where do you get your information that Bush Lied? It was based on bad intell.
Gas prices has NOTHING to do with the President!!! Supply and Demand, look it up, you might learn something.

Prove the crimes, don't just BLEEP, prove it!! And the funny thing is that you don't live in Detroit!! I don't either and never will. And you want to be Hypicritical!! LOL

shockhazard read my blog view my photos
May 11, 2008 | 10:11 AM

You are brainwashed , as earlier stated . Bush lied , people died ? Get real ! How about , Kwame lied , people were bribed ? Kwame lied , dancers died ? Kwame got wired , and cops got fired ?

Dtwndave
May 12, 2008 | 2:10 PM

Talk about a witchhunt, you liberals have brought on some 300 investigations in an effort to try to get Bush on something. what did all that wasted money yeild? NOTHING! 4 years to try and find the one who "outed" a former CIA secratary who was outed by her husband long before anyway resulted in what? NOTHING. Someone barely related to the case who was convicted of lying during the investigation. NO CONVICTION OF THE "OUTING" THAT YOU LIBERALS SO DESPARTELY WANTED. No case for impeachment, hence no discussion of impeachment by a LIBERALLY RUN CONGRESS! YOU SEARCH AND SEARCH AND TRY AND TRY AND YOUR LIBERAL IRRATIONAL HATRED JUST FESTERS INTO MORE IRRATIONAL HATRED.
Furthermore, Clinton's outside the marriage affairs distracted that spineless individual enough to do absolutely NOTHING while the US was attacked by terrorists 8 times until they finally committed an act that NOBODY with any kind of humanity in their soul would have ever dreamed of.
Likewise, Don Kwamie was more interested in chaising tail than doing anything for the city. Part of his re-election campaign actually mentioned an accomplishment in getting grass cut in the parks! ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
As for the notion that you have to live in the city to have a ligitimate opinion on this matter; THAT is exactly the blinders that is keeping the city in the dank hole that it's in. Detroit could be great, too bad so many would be rational Detroiters are too blind to see how bad it's gotten.

detroitgirldt read my blog view my photos
May 12, 2008 | 3:26 PM

For one its not the affair its kwamee lieing under oath about the affair. For two how many non-detroiters work in the city of detroit and pay city taxes? For three you need a lesson on who is ruining detroit it has nothing to do with non-detroiters when alot of people from detroit are moving on because they dont want to be there anymore. who do you think goes to all the hockey game, casinos, resturants,concerts, hoedown and so on and so on ALL US NON-DETROITERS thats who we spend our money just as much if not more when we go to detroit

jax276 read my blog
May 12, 2008 | 6:00 PM

What cracks me up is the only reply you spoke of out of all the bloggers was the only one that agreed with you. At least you didn't delete comments like a few folks in here

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