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Racial Based Campaign Ads
Jun 24, 2008 | 3:47 PM
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With the election four months away both the Obama and McCain camps are having to respond to ads meant to appeal to audiences racial sentiments

A presidential candidate who's named Hussein and wears a turban? A building that's called the White House but run by a black guy? These blatant racist political images have already have found their way onto TV airwaves and campaign buttons. These racially tinged messages are obviously meant to direct ones attention to the fact that Barack Obama is the first black candidate to head a major party's ticket.

What did these ads entail? The following: A TV station in South Dakota briefly aired an ad that was edited to show Obama saying, "we are no longer a Christian nation, we are also a Muslim nation." The ad omitted his saying, in the same speech, that the United States is not solely a Christian nation. The ad, which included a photo of Obama wearing a turban as part of a traditional outfit given to him in Africa, concluded with a man saying: "It's time for people of faith to stand against Barack Hussein Obama." A group called the Coalition Against Anti-Christian Rhetoric paid for the ad, which stations quickly dropped after the Obama campaign complained.

The Texas Republican Party recently cut ties with a vendor whose political buttons at a party convention included one saying: "If Obama is president ... will we still call it The White House?" Texas GOP spokesman Hans Klingler said, "we will neither tolerate nor profit from bigotry."

The McCain campaign leaders have made it clear that they will have no tolerance for these campaign tactics, but is their word enough?

What do you, the voters, think?  Racially charged criticism of Obama already has been at the forefront of the campaign, will these ads simply bring more attention to an already heated issue?  Because of these ads will voters be more sympathetic to Obama and feel resentment towards McCain for the surfacing of these ads? Will voters be more likely to think of Obama as 'out of touch with American values'? Or will voters completely disregard these ads and look at the real issues at hand, race and religion aside?
 
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Mikey66 read my blog view my photos
Jun 24, 2008 | 10:40 PM

OH YEAH ,IM SURE MOST PEOPLE WILL BE SYMPATHETHAC TO OBAMA ,AFRICAN AMERICANS CAN GET AWAY WITH SPEWING RACIST COMMENTS ,TO GET A BETTER IDEA OF MY OPINION CLICK MY SCREEN NAME AND SEE THE POST ON THE REV AL SHARPTON
zspoons read my blog
Jun 25, 2008 | 6:32 AM

I have been Democrat most all my life, But there is no way i will vote for anyone that refuses to cover there heart when the National anthem or pledge to the flag is done.I do not want a NON AMERICAN running my country no mater what color he or she is ! ! ! .I have served in prior wars,had friends and fellow americans fall right beside me giveing their lifes for the people of this great nation, And to have a races muslum stand there and do what he did or didn't do, say what he said about the flag pin ,he wont get my vote...and if i had the power he would not be a senitor also EVER.i hope the AMERICAN people wake up and not sircome to stupidity and vote for him just because he is Black !!!!!
gonowkwam read my blog view my photos
Jun 25, 2008 | 9:31 AM

I''d vote for a black man/woman....give me Colin Powell...Huel Perkins....Dennis Archer...or Charles Pugh....I just don't want to take the chance on a candidate who may be sympathic to muslims....this country was FOUNDED on christianity...and I am sorry, but I don't believe Obama is a christian as he claims. I'd much rather vote for a person who says "I really don't believe in God", at least that's honest.
NativeMichiganian read my blog
Jun 25, 2008 | 12:07 PM

My vote? No way. He lost it when he snubbed his own grandmother!!!!!!
Innocent_Puppet read my blog view my photos
Jun 25, 2008 | 2:02 PM

zspoons wrote:

"...there is no way i will vote for anyone that refuses to cover there heart when the National anthem or pledge to the flag is done.I do not want a NON AMERICAN running my country no mater what color he or she is !"

You are perfectly within your right to feel this way. I just don't see how anyone could hang the future of this country on so flimsy a thing as whether someone holds their hand on their heart at all times during the anthem. Hell, I served in the military for 23 years and when it comes to that, sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. To me, it is a respectful demeanor during the anthem that speaks to whether you hold what this country stands for in reverence. It would be a sad thing if I felt my vote had come down to something that I see as irrelevant as this. I realize it's important to you and probably many other people, but to base a decision as momentous as electing the leader of our nation on, it seems like his positions on national issues would weigh a little more heavily than the position of his hand. You may have to ask yourself what the real reason you don't want to vote for Senator Obama is.

By the way, to your other point (I do not want a NON AMERICAN running my country), I don’t know who has misinformed you but Senator Obama is an American and wouldn’t be able to run for the presidency if he weren’t.
Innocent_Puppet read my blog view my photos
Jun 25, 2008 | 2:10 PM

gonowkwam wrote: "I just don't want to take the chance on a candidate who may be sympathic to muslims."

It seems from the content of your post that you consider yourself a Christian. Yet you sound as if it would be somehow "un-Christian" to be sympathetic to Muslims. I think you should check with your priest or pastor on that one, you could be wrong. You then go on to claim that you don't think that Senator Obama is a Christian as he claims. I want you to assess the behavior of the rest of us Christians around you and identify which of us are as Christian as we claim. Then let him among us who is without sin cast the first stone.
gonowkwam read my blog view my photos
Jun 25, 2008 | 5:23 PM

Innocent.....I guess for some one must be very specific....and I apologize. I should have said sympathic to "radical" muslims. You know, 911 and all? And also I would dearly love the US to remain a "christian" country. I don't want to go to court and swear on the Koran....I know Obama didn't....I just don't want our country heading that way, and it seems to me it is. We christians can't bow our heads in a schoolyard/football field for fear we might be praying. God/Jesus/The Holy Bible are forbidden subjects in schools (although I've heard, haven't confirmed yet, that some schools, in Dearborn I presume, are teaching from the Koran or about Islam religion. And heaven forbid we should have the ten commandments anywhere in plain sight to read. And don't even get me started on why I don't believe Obama is a christian....please.
Volunteer3 read my blog view my photos
Jun 26, 2008 | 7:49 AM

ALL
Race IE Mr. Obama is colored. Not a big deal. The background, philosophy and values the candidate holds is a BIG deal.
Using the idea of being colored, light skinned, or a Hispanic is a ploy to the folks that have similar coloration or to the folks that hold distaste for the idea of anyone being different than their own coloration. It is a physchological ploy, not worthy of the name.
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Innocent_Puppet read my blog view my photos
Jun 26, 2008 | 8:34 AM

Volunteer3:

Thanks for that post. I only hope that the great majority of people who post here will take the time to look at those and an additonal wide variety of independent voices in an attempt to get as close to the truth as we can about this man. I don't think I'm being biased, but it's my opinion that much of what is written about Senator Obama on these blogs is just uninformed fear-mongering. (He's not an American, he's Moslem, he swore in to the Senate on a Koran, he's a racist who hates white people, he's (gasp!) a communist). Come on people! What is this, the 50's? You have an amazing tool in front of you right now. If you want information - you can get it there. Just consider your sources and do the hard work it takes to decide on the best man for the job. It has never been more important and is worth the investment of your time.
Innocent_Puppet read my blog view my photos
Jun 26, 2008 | 8:41 AM

gonowkwam wrote: "I guess for some one must be very specific....and I apologize. I should have said sympathetic to "radical" Muslims."

As far as being "specific" I think you'd agree that had I posted a blog that said "sympathetic to Christians" it would sound much different and take on a very different meaning than "sympathetic to radical Christians. You know, the Inquisition and all", so language is important when you're trying to get your point across. As far as this being your defense of making the statement, I have a question for you. What facts do you have that in any way lead you to believe that he may be "sympathetic to (radical) Muslims?" I would be very interested to find any legitimate research that would support this.
Innocent_Puppet read my blog view my photos
Jun 26, 2008 | 8:53 AM

gonowkwam wrote: "God/Jesus/The Holy Bible are forbidden subjects in schools"

These are forbidden subjects in PUBLIC school and they should be. Everyone pays taxes to attend public schools so all public schools use funds provided by the taxpayers and administered by the government. Regardless of any semantics you might wish to work with concerning the "separation of church and state", what it boils down to is that the Constitution requires that our government not endorse any religion over any other. Since our schools are government-funded, no observances related to any one specific religious persuasion are permitted. If you feel strongly enough that this should be allowed, you have the option of sending your children to an institution providing religious-based education as many of my friends have done. The argument that this country was somehow founded as a "Christian" nation doesn't wash because the Constitution clearly states otherwise. By the way, I'm a Christian myself and wholeheartedly support the fact that prayer and other religious acts and observances should not be allowed in the public schools. In my opinion, the choice of one’s religion is a deeply personal one and not something that should be left to the government to decide.
gonowkwam read my blog view my photos
Jun 26, 2008 | 11:08 AM

Innocent wrote: "What facts do you have that in any way lead you to believe that he may be "sympathetic to (radical) Muslims?" I would be very interested to find any legitimate research that would support this."

Please read this: http://www.nysun.com/opinion/kenya-connection/69273/ or this: http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/kenyas_
killing_fields/index.html
gonowkwam read my blog view my photos
Jun 26, 2008 | 12:41 PM

Innocent says: "The argument that this country was somehow founded as a "Christian" nation doesn't wash because the Constitution clearly states otherwise."

How about foot baths at U of M? They are getting their foot, pardon the pun, in the door. It's just not right.


http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-07-25-muslim-s
pecial-treatment-from-schools_N.htm

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/13448320/detail.html


http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/05/exclusi
ve_so_lo.html
Innocent_Puppet read my blog view my photos
Jun 26, 2008 | 1:07 PM

gonowkwam provided these links: http://www.nysun.com/opinion/kenya-connection/69273/ and the atlasshrugs link.

I was unable to get the atlas link to work. I copied it directly from your post. Could it be that it is typed in wrong or that the link is no longer active? In either case, is this a blog site? Because if I just type in Atlas Shrugs it takes me to a blog site. Nothing wrong with a blog but I would hardly say you can support the ideas in your blog by referring me to another blog, could you?

The other site you provided appears to be a legitimate news outlet but I don’t know much about them. My only problem with that link is that (as you can see by just looking at the link title) the article there is an Opinion piece. Don’t get me wrong; I can see why what he has written there may lead you to be nervous about Senator Obama. I would only urge some independent verification of what his opinions are on this matter, which I would be interested to see myself. If you have something from a mainstream news source, either conservative or liberal doesn't matter, that’s not an opinion or editorial piece I would love the chance to see the facts on this.

Even a conservative news website is acceptable (Fox News, Washington Times, etc) as long it isn’t an opinion piece, editorial piece, or commentary, but news. If the information that is in the blogs you’ve read or the editorials or commentaries, then they would definitely be big news to the mainstream news organizations and should be easy to find.
Innocent_Puppet read my blog view my photos
Jun 26, 2008 | 1:14 PM

gonowkwam says: How about foot baths at U of M? They are getting their foot, pardon the pun, in the door. It's just not right.

I can agree with you on that. If the U of M is a government funded institution and they are allowing religious observances in school, then that is just as wrong as school prayer. I hadn't heard about these foot baths and don't know whether the "U of M" (which University is this?) is a public or private University. If it's a private school, they have the option of allowing religious ceremonies.
Alexxi read my blog
Jun 26, 2008 | 3:45 PM

It's real sad and because we all have the right to freedom of speech no matter how dumb the comment, what's really terrible is that so many people are still so simple minded and teaching the next generation to carry the color card that is supposed to make up a person's character and judge them to that affect. I have yet to meet a white person and nor have I met a black person. White is the color of tissue paper and black is the color of the oil that keeps us all warm and found in the diamond mines, so for all the idiots, we will never be a great and strong nation with this tired mentality.
Alexxi read my blog
Jun 26, 2008 | 3:46 PM

It's real sad and because we all have the right to freedom of speech no matter how dumb the comment, what's really terrible is that so many people are still so simple minded and teaching the next generation to carry the color card that is supposed to make up a person's character and judge them to that affect. I have yet to meet a white person and nor have I met a black person. White is the color of tissue paper and black is the color of the oil that keeps us all warm and found in the diamond mines, so for all the idiots, we will never be a great and strong nation with this tired mentality.
Alexxi read my blog
Jun 26, 2008 | 3:52 PM

Our beliefs no matter what each person chooses to live by is their choice, that's the greatest and most beautiful gift that God gave every one of us CHOICE, no one walking this earth has the right to dictate what a person chooses to live by, Jesus did not force any one to Love and follow him no matter where you come from.
gonowkwam read my blog view my photos
Jun 26, 2008 | 4:56 PM

Innocent....that's the University of Michigan, Dearborn, public school...and the foot baths were provided with tax payers dollars! and Dearborn has one of if not the greatest percentage of muslims in the country. It's just not right that they can push and get their religious rights all the while christians are losing theirs.
Innocent_Puppet read my blog view my photos
Jun 26, 2008 | 6:31 PM

gonowkwam:
I think I come down on your side on this issue but if they weren't using taxpayer money to install the footbaths I wouldn't. That's because, as the Muslim students rightly point out, some accomodations are made for the Christian students since classes are not held on Sundays, and there are Christmas and Easter break periods. The difference to me is, these accomodations do not require taxpayer funds to allow them. The college has called the baths a health and safety measure and said that the foot baths can be used by anyone, not just Muslims. But I think that's stretching it a bit. You could just as well argue that allowing students from other religions to pray on campus could be a contributor to good (mental) health. So to me the issue comes down to who pays. I would be in favor of a Moslem group in the community or group of students financing the baths with the approval of each school, but having them installed on the taxpayers' dime seems unfair to other religious groups.
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