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CHILD DISCIPLINE Effectiveness of non-violent method relative to spanking is still debated. Those opposed to spanking argue that non-violent methods of child discipline are not only more humane, but more effective, than physical punishment such as spanking. Since spanking has been shown in scientific studies to lead to more misbehavior in the long run, a commitment to non-violent discipline can be expected to soon make parents' lives easier than they would have been otherwise. My argument: Spare the rod and spoil the child?

A) There are many ways to discipline young children:

1) TIME OUTS:

 One method often used for young children is the use of time-outs. A time-out involves isolating the child for a short period of time. Although the giving of time-outs is an extremely common parenting practice, it is also very widely misunderstood and misapplied. Ideally, the time-out is intended to give an over-excited child time to calm down. Many advocates of the time-out recommend that other methods of discipline are more appropriate when a child makes a calm, deliberate choice to misbehave. The theory behind the time-out is that children at young ages, (2-5 yrs old) are often frightened by their own lack of control when they throw tantrums. Thus, time-outs help children develop internal self-control, whereas methods like spanking, the child relies on someone else to forcibly control them.

2) Distraction:

Distraction is a method of stopping young children from continuing a problem behavior.For example, if the parent sees the young child involved in an unacceptable behavior, the parent suggests to the child a more interesting alternative, such as reading a book together, a dance around the room, singing songs, etc. This is followed by continuing to play with the child until her unacceptable behavior is forgotten, then take her from the area for other activities, in order to assure that they will not return to it. The distraction method relies on the fact that young children have very short attention spans. Thus, it becomes less useful as the child matures. Punishing a child at this age would be pointless and serve only to create unnecessary resentment. Distraction can involve hugging. Hugging is useful for children not yet capable of reasoning or those in, for example, the so-called "terrible twos." This is used mainly when the child is involved in persistent negative behavior or in destructive behavior. The child is picked up and hugged in such a way that the child does not get hurt but ceases their ill-behavior. As the child begins to quiet, they are rocked, sang to, or spoken to in soft, calming tones. They are then removed from the room and given an activity that distracts them from his previous concern.

3) Reason:

Children will come to the age when reasoning is a very effective discipline tool. At this time, the child may be told, for example, "If you play with the glass apple, your hands are small, and it could fall. It would break and cut you. You could follow this by allowing the child to sit on a carpeted floor allow the child to caress it for a short time, then putting it away. This not only satisfies the child's natural, healthy curiosity and opens up the possibility for communication, but it also gives the child one-on-one time with the parent. In a calm voice talk with your child and answer their questions and then put the apple away in a safe place.

4) Consequences:

Many parents and experts believe that logical consequences for misbehavior are also effective. For example, if a teenager uses the car without permission, a logical consequence would be that the car is off-limits for a period of time which includes an instance when the teen is greatly inconvenienced.

5) Modeling:

The parent must consistently show the child what kind of life is expected of him by not doing anything that the parent will not allow the child to do. Showing the child appropriate behavior will teach the child far faster and far more deeply than will disciplinary action for misbehavior. Modeling is worthy of the efforts of every parent and shows the child by example that the parent is willing to "walk the walk" as well as "talk the talk." When the parent errs, rather than covering up the error, advocates strongly suggest admitting the error, talking about it, and openly living through its consequences. Consistent effort on the part of the parent to model appropriate behavior with the ability to admit errors and apologize creates reciprocal respect for the parent and prevents resentment based on hypocrisy and double standards, say modeling proponents.

6) Praise and rewards:

 Praise and rewards (hugs, time with the child, etc.) for good behavior similarly goes much further as discipline than does punishment . Simply giving the child positive attention and respect when they are not misbehaving will also act as an extremely strong reinforcer for good behavior. It is very common for children who are otherwise ignored by their parents to turn to misbehavior as a way of seeking attention. Advocates of this method differ on the question of what exactly should be used as rewards. Some, for instance, are strongly opposed to the use of food or sweets as rewards; others find candy a very effective and appropriate incentive.

7) Scolding:

 Just as verbal praise is a powerful reinforcer for most children, verbal scolding can be an effective punishment. As with other punitive methods, however, over-reliance on scolding will drastically lessen its effectiveness. However, if gentle scolding is sometimes used in place of yelling, then the child won't be afraid. II. Be consistent: Whatever the age of the child, and whichever disciplinary solution you choose, always remember to be consistent. Consistency helps the child know that you mean business and also makes the child feel more secure when they know you are in charge.

Spare the rod and spoil the child? I say take the rod, attache a reel and go fishing with your child, don’t spank him.

What is your opinion?

REFERENCES:

www.medhelp.org/forums/childbehavior/archive/5.html>  

 www.StopHitting.com

Some schools offer the video 1,2,3, magic to parents who have discipline problems with their children.

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steveincanton read my blog view my photos
Jan 23, 2008 | 2:02 PM

While working at a hospital a little over a year ago the violent crime statistics came out. It was found that teens that were never spanked had a higher rate of beating their parents!

Tallmanok2 read my blog view my photos
Jan 23, 2008 | 2:02 PM

One,

I can't say I agree with you on this one I believe that there are times when a firm hand and a soft butt just need to come to a meeting of the minds.

One4A11 read my blog view my photos
Jan 23, 2008 | 2:36 PM

Hey guys! Nice to hear some different opinions.

Well, I can't say I have never smacked my boys.
I had to do a debate for Public speaking class and wanted to try it out on here.
I agree that when all else fails, then enough is enough. Actually as a parent, I have no complaints. My boys are wonderful. They both have only received one or two spanking in their entire lifes. My eldest got his when he was 18, for mouthing off...
My second one got one when he was 6...for imatating his brother...
It was the same day.... They are 12yrs apart.
Bad day for mom?
But when I look back, I feel like I took the easy way out. Did I really teach them anything other than mom can lose control?

Thanks for the comments...keep them comming...My debate day is this monday and I want a good grade....Thanks!

One4A11 read my blog view my photos
Jan 23, 2008 | 2:40 PM

Steve, that is aweful! Do you have reference to this report? I could use that info for class.

Tallmanok2 read my blog view my photos
Jan 23, 2008 | 2:48 PM

One I have to tell you about a great book " Dare to Discipline" I believe it's by James Dobson.

momandlovingit read my blog
Jan 23, 2008 | 3:13 PM

Hello One,
how are you doing? thank you for the kind words on the other blogs. I have to agree with you. More often then not people don't understand the difference between spanking and abusing. I grew up where if you did something wrong you were spanked. I don't think I turned out bad. I was also grounded and in time-out, but for me the fear of a spanking usually kept me in line. A child has to learn that we as parents make the decisions, not them, we can include them in daily discussions about family trips punishments etc. but it comes down to we are the authority figure. If they can't learn to respect us... how then will they ever learn to respect say their boss, wife/husband etc.

Michigan_Man read my blog view my photos
Jan 23, 2008 | 3:13 PM

Abandoning the teachings of religion are almost always the first steps towards moral behavior.

I personally prefer the Dog Whisperer approach, calm and assertive. The child must see you as the pack leader. Sometimes a short, swift whack to the bottom to get the child to stop an unwanted behavior can be effective, but as a form of punishment I have never seen a study that says that an hour or so after something happened just beating the child will make the child a better person in any way.

With the amount of information out there today on child psychology I don't see any legitimate reason why spanking as punishment would continue to be used. Like I said, a whack to the bottom to get the child's attention is one thing, repeated whacks likely to be counter-productive.

car7858 read my blog view my photos
Jan 23, 2008 | 3:15 PM

Good post, One; With the laws regarding how children are disciplined and today's children being alot smarter than say 10-20 years ago due to technology, a parent has a difficult time addressing their child's negative behavior reasonably. If more parents would instill good morals and proper behavior at a very young age, the issues of discipline would hardly ever be addressed. Many of the children & teens these days either rebel against right or basically "own" their parents. The line has to be drawn early.

car7858 read my blog view my photos
Jan 23, 2008 | 3:18 PM

I disagree with the "abandoning of religion in children's teachings". That decision should be left up to the convictions of the parents and I see nothing wrong with a child being taught the Ten Commandments or to support good over evil. Many readings from the Bible are a positve influence on them, whether they choose later in life to believe or not.

Michigan_Man read my blog view my photos
Jan 23, 2008 | 3:33 PM

Hello Car,

Short answer,
The one line was a shot from another thread dealing specifically with religion. Needless to say though, I disagree that the Bible is a positive influence. If you think the Ten Commandments are a good influence, re-read them in the Bible and tell me what the punishment for violating them is.

Long answer,
http://community.myfoxdetroit.com/blogs/One4A11/2007/12
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MichiganPerson read my blog
Jan 23, 2008 | 3:56 PM

when my granddaughter was 4 yrs old we took the middle son to the mall for shoes the granddaughter picked up a pair of shoes 5 times and her grandpa told her to put them down and she keep it up I went over gave her a little swat and to this day she is now 18 yrs old I have never had to swat her again.when all else fails a swat does not hurt.

One4A11 read my blog view my photos
Jan 23, 2008 | 5:10 PM

Tall,
Thanks for the info, I will see if I can get a copy before monday...
Mom,
You're so welcome, and Thank you! We did our best now the rest is up to God...The seeds have been planted....and speaking of....

Tim, Hi again, thanks for your comment on child discipline. Please try to keep this Blog about Child Discipline...lol

Carl...How have you been? Thanks for the comments. I agree, today is so different then when we grew up! My parents made us get a stick off the tree....and we had big trees! =0
Good thing I was a good kid, unlike my brothers who got it daily. The thing is, some of them didn't turn out so good....so this is also why I picked this topic.
Michigan Person, Thanks for your comment.
Have you met Michigan man?
....A swat on the behind is nothing, a swat with a look of disaproval and a stern voice is not what I meant. I am talking about the kids who get wacked with a belt, a cord, a fist. There is a big difference.
(When my youngest was barely 3, we were in a mall, he was getting bored, hungry and tired, and started acting up. He just would not behave. I took him to the ladie's room, got down to his level, swatted his behind, and gave him a look that would make an adult quiver,and told him how rude it was to interupt mommy when she was checking out....After that all I had to say is, Would you like to go to the ladies room? lol
He's 8yrs old now, so he communicates with me much better. He just says, "mom, I am bored or I am hungry, let's go home.)" He saves me alot of money! lol

Michigan_Man read my blog view my photos
Jan 23, 2008 | 6:15 PM

Clearly violent reprisal for especially trivial matters is no way to teach morality or virtue.

I will try to keep religion out of this, but you tempt me with the religious title. lol

I think the key is to have the child want to emulate you, to have them look up to you and desire your approval and truly take your disappointment to heart. The child shouldn't be brought up to fear violence, they should be taught to fear conscience.

MichiganPerson read my blog
Jan 23, 2008 | 8:28 PM

my middle son when he was 5 and this whopper of a temper tantrum throw himself on the floor in the store as I was checking out I WOULD NOT BUY HIM ANY CANDY he did not need any!! I looked at him told him he had two choice's 1 stand up and act like he was human or 2 to get the bottom warmed as I always told them so you would not be able to sit for 100 yrs. he looked at me and got up and stop acting like some kind of animal.I had the LOOK as my oldest grandson calls it on my face been using it for year's they usely know when I have that LOOK you do not want to push it anymore. it's worked for about 20 yrs so it has to be pretty good do not have to kill the child to make them listen to you.

car7858 read my blog view my photos
Jan 23, 2008 | 8:30 PM

Thanks One; In reply to MM, the punishment is not the issue, it's the morals & teachings of right vs. wrong that come into play in a child that is raised with religious values. The only issue of punishment would be basically self-inflicted by not following them. A child can be raised without religion, but I believe it makes them better person in life when adherred to. It is good to see you back in the blogs as yours opinions are valid answers that I can respect, MM.

jax276 read my blog view my photos
Jan 23, 2008 | 8:35 PM

I was the youngest of four boys through my childhood and my Mother never raised a hand to any of us. To save her mitt she used a flyswatter. I not only have three successful brothers and I didn't do bad myself. No damage was done but that sting easily got the attention of four rowdy boys. It even helped me in baseball from all the practice at short sprints. Stole a lot of bases thanks to Mom and her swatter lol.

Michigan_Man read my blog view my photos
Jan 23, 2008 | 9:13 PM

Car,

I appreciate the compliment, however One has specifically requested that religion be kept out of this thread. It is her thread so I think we should respect that. If you would like to advocate religion as an appropriate method of instructing children then I would respectfully ask you to post such a thread in the faith section where faith is discussed and then provide the link to that thread so we could discuss it there as I provided the link to the thread where religion is currently being discussed.

:-)

car7858 read my blog view my photos
Jan 24, 2008 | 9:27 AM

I don't advocate it, I speak when spoken too; I will respect One's post as I already know your stand on that topic. One-You are right on the money; The issue of discipline has to be limited as far as how a child is punished. Beatings and use of cords & belts leaving physical & emotional scars are totally uncalled for. A spanking applies when a young child continues to show negative behavior but as the child grows to teen years, the punishment has to also change in form. Taking away free time after school, limiting PC time, and other ways can apply, as long as the act one is being punished for isn't extreme. If a child acts violently towards their own parents, a professional approach is necessary and their social lives outside of home need to be addressed.

One4A11 read my blog view my photos
Jan 24, 2008 | 5:48 PM

Hi everyone, thanks for all of your responses.
Today in Public Speaking Class we had a round table discussion on our topics. It turns out that there is one other person who has picked the same topic as I. She is on the opposite side. I think this is going get ugly. Then the younger students, they don't want to think their parents did anything wrong, so they are going to argue that its ok. It's not ok! Have any of you been in a grocery store where a mother hits a child hard on the mouth just because that child seen a candy bar and wants it? Have you ever heard a parent call their child a terrible name and seen that child eyes well up in tears? Oh my, how I just wanted to....but instead, I talk to that child about how pretty their shirt is, or how cool his cap is...and let the mother know, (with a look that all us mom's understand) that that's what she could have done, rather than hurt her child or hurt that child's spirit.

Yes Tim, I know what the title is, and I knew you would respond to that....lol
Thanks for understanding. (see you in the other blog) ;)
The reason why I picked that title is because some people think they have to spank their children really hard to get through to them.
And alot of people fear that they will spoil their child if they don't spank them.

One4A11 read my blog view my photos
Jan 24, 2008 | 6:29 PM

Some things I found on the net....

Tool Kit for International Participants
in SpankOut Day April 30th
JOIN us in raising our voices on behalf of
non-violence against children!
What is SpankOut Day?

SpankOut Day was initiated in the US in l998 to give widespread attention to the need to end corporal punishment of children. EPOCH-USA (End Physical Punishment of Children) sponsors SpankOut Day USA. On SpankOut Day, we commend parents who use non-violent discipline. We ask other parents to refrain from hitting on this day and seek alternative methods of discipline through reading, reflection and through programs which may be available in their communities. We ask NGO's to conduct informational programs or campaigns on that date to help educate parents and other caretakers of children about the effects of corporal punishment and alternatives. In other countries the April 30th observance might be more appropriately called No-Hitting Day or No-Smacking Day.

In 2001, child advocates in a few countries asked to participate in SpankOut Day. We decided to issue an open invitation to child advocates and organizations in all countries to join us on this April 30th observance so that we can raise our voices on behalf of non-violence against children!

Here's why we need an international no-hitting day for children:

"Spanking, smacking, beating children is a dangerous lesson in bad behaviour. Children, like the rest of us, have a right not to be hit or humiliated. Most parents who hit their children deeply regret it. Smacking hurts children - and not just physically. The

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