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................HANDY CHART.................
 
 God has a positive answer:
 YOU SAY..... GOD SAYS.... BIBLE VERSES
 You say: "It's impossible" God says: All
 things are possible (Luke 18:27)
 You say: "I'm too tired" God says: I will
 give you rest (Matthew 11:28-30)
 You say: "Nobody really loves me" God says:
 I love you ( John 3:1 6 & John 3:34 )
 You say: "I can't go on" God says: My grace
 is sufficient (II Corinthians 12:9 & Psalm 91:15)
 You say: "I can't figure things out" God
 says: I will direct your steps (Proverbs 3:5- 6)
 You say: "I can't do it" God says: You can
 do all things (Phil ippians 4:13)
 You say: "I'm not able" God says: I am able
 (II Corinthians 9:8)
 You say: "It's not worth it" God says: It
 will be worth it (Roman 8:28 )
 You say: "I can't forgive myself" God says:
 I Forgive you (I John 1:9 & Romans 8:1)
 You say: "I can't manage" God says: I will
 supply all your needs (Philippians 4:19)
 You say: "I'm afraid" God says: I have not
 given you a spirit of fear (II Tim othy 1:7)
 You say: "I'm always worried and frustrated"
 God says: Cast all your cares on ME (I Peter 5:7)

 You say: "I'm not smart enough" God says: I
 give you wisdom (I Corinthians 1:30)
 You say: "I feel all alone" God says: I
 will never leave you or forsake you
 (Hebrews 13:5)

 
 
 The first sentence is pretty powerful!
 
 God determines who walks into your life....it's up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let
stay, and who you refuse to let go."

 
 Merry Christmas Everyone , May God bless your family with peace and goodwill towards all men.
 

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Michigan_Man read my blog view my photos
Jan 7, 2008 | 5:48 PM

Name for me a righteous action performed or a moral statement made by a believer that could not have been made by a nonbeliever.

You can't do it. However, I have yet to meet a person who when asked if they can think of a wicked or evil action performed that could have only been performed in the name of their religion I have yet to find a person who even hesitates.

Matthew 18: 2-3
Then Jesus called a little child to Him, set him in the midst of them,
And said, "Assuredly, I say to you, unless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 18: 6-9
"But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
Woe to the world because of offenses! For offenses must come, but woe to that man by whom the offense comes!
If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire.
And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire."

One4A11 read my blog view my photos
Jan 7, 2008 | 9:04 PM

Isn't it funny how a person can proclaim they do not believe and in the same sentence show proof of studying the same subject in which they say they do not believe.
The Bible is a book of history, like many which has been rewritten several times. When I read scripture, I also then speak to God. If you really want answers to the many questions you apparently have, you could try the same thing. Or take out the middle man all together and speak directly to Him. I hope you find your answers Mr. Man.
Thank you for your replay.

Michigan_Man read my blog view my photos
Jan 7, 2008 | 10:04 PM

Do I find it funny that I am not ignorant, that I have studied the thing I'm critiquing? No, that is evidence based rational thought.

The Bible a book of history? What about the historical errors in the Bible? Luke describes Mary and Joseph escaping with newborn Jesus during the Census of Quirinius which took place in 6 A.D. while Matthew puts the birth of Jesus during the reign of Herod who had died 10 years earlier, before the birth of Jesus in the year 4 B.C. (before Christ).

If you've got magic men talking to you in your head, I assure you, its not God. What I find amazing is the ability of theists to not only claim to KNOW that God exists, but claim to know his mind, that you know what he wants. Of all the theistic religion, of all the Holy Texts that claim to be the one true religion, that the one called Christianity where in order for God to forgive mankind he had to have himself born, sacrifice himself to himself, kill himself, and then he was capable of saying I forgive you. Of that religion you also claim that of the thousands of denominations within Christianity that you belong to the correct one. How arrogant.

I find my answers not by guessing and then calling my guess faith and therefore beyond reproach, I instead look for an objective answer. Call me crazy, but I like evidence, I like reason, I have a need for things to make sense.

All I would ask of you is to stop looking at the Bible saying "this is the word of God" and ask just once "is this the word of God?"

One4A11 read my blog view my photos
Jan 8, 2008 | 6:46 PM

Hello again Mr Man,

I am glad you found my blog interesting enough to reply to. I had my reasons for posting it a while back.
I am glad you are looking for your own answers. I do hope you find them before your time on this earth runs out.
However, I find it odd that you would attack what someone else may believe.
The Bible is a book of history. That is not what I was taught, that is what I sought and found out on my own. I also have questions about the contents of the good book. I fear not all of it has been interpreted correctly. But that may be so for many books of historical fact, especially those written in foreign languages interpreted into english and visa/versa.
As far as evidence of His existance, I surely have my own. I truly hope you find yours.
Since you asked a question of me, I have 2 for you. You don't need to reply if you have no answers.

Why? Why are you looking for evidence of something you are sure does not exist?

If there is no God, then you have nothing to lose. But I ask you, what if .......?

By the way, this statement you made...
(If you've got magic men talking to you in your head, I assure you, its not God.)
This really made me laugh. And you call others arrogant? There's really no need to be nasty or feel affended.
And lastly if you wish to reply, please do so with respect.
Thanks again for your reply.

Michigan_Man read my blog view my photos
Jan 8, 2008 | 10:19 PM

I must comment that posting your beliefs on a debate forum and then finding "it odd" that another person replies with an opposing opinion is odd to me.

No, you do not have evidence, you have a feeling. If you do have evidence then why don't you share it? As for evidence I would recommend the book "God the Failed Hypothesis" for scientific evidence in this regard addressing arguments that you are making that you may not be aware have already been objectively shown to be false.

As for your question. I look at proposals that suggest answers to particular questions. For example if I were to ask a Muslim why the Sun rises in the East and sets in the West then according to her/his scripture they would tell me that the Sun rises from a lake of mud, goes across the sky, asks God permission to pass and repeat the process the next day, and then sets in another lake of mud. If I were to ask a scientist they not only would tell me that gravity causes objects to attract based on mass therefore since the Sun has the largest mass and the largest gravity the Earth falls into an orbit, the Earth spins because of a collision in the early years of of the solar system which put the Earth on an angle (as well as formed the moon from the impact which answers the question why the moon as the same revolution as rotation and has been proven with carbon-14 dating), and the Sun appears to move across the sky from East to West only from our perspective, not only could the scientist tell me all that but the scientist could prove it objectively. If I were to ask a Christian or Jew then t

Michigan_Man read my blog view my photos
Jan 8, 2008 | 10:20 PM

If I were to ask a Christian or Jew then they would tell me that God created the universe in 6 days and then took a break approximately 5,000 years ago. A scientist could prove that to be objectively wrong. To not investigate the opposing opinion would be closed minded. I was raised Catholic, but it never took. I never took the mythology serious. Do you believe in Dragons or unicorns? You must, they are in the Bible. As for Pascal's wager, I could go into great detail as to why that is wrong, but instead I shall provide a short video clip of somebody else addressing part of the problem with Pascal's wager. How much would you respect me if I came to you and said, "I believe a bunch of supernatural things that I cannot prove and if you don't believe it too then you will be tortured for all eternity, will you respect me now?"

One4A11 read my blog view my photos
Jan 9, 2008 | 11:41 AM

Before I reply, let me admit, I didn't take the time to read all of your replies, I will try later. I just wanted to jump in and say this:
MY FAITH IS NOT UP FOR DEBATE!
And maybe you haven't heard, but not all scientist are non believers. Faith is faith, There is no need for proof or it wouldn't be faith. Look up the word in the dictionary. I would for you but I only have a few moments left on break.

Michigan_Man read my blog view my photos
Jan 9, 2008 | 1:34 PM

Did Jesus not say you are supposed to expect to be mocked for your beliefs?

Your Faith is not up for debate? Then how do you know it is right? Don't you think there is a difference between faith and blind faith? If you are going to say "my faith is not up for debate" in a forum for debating faith on a post you made which expands your faith beyond what Jesus wants (Matthew chapter 6 verses 5,6) then don't you think that is closed minded? Can you not defend your religion? I pointed out some contradictions internally in the Bible including the story of the birth of Jesus telling his birth during the reign of Herod who died 4 years before Jesus's birth and another which puts the story escaping the census as tax evaders which puts the date 6 years after the birth of Jesus. What about the Sermon on the Mount, how many people were there? What about the acoustics, can you speak clearly to thousands of people on the top of a mount? Is there a mount near the area where he gave the speech? Were there thousands of people that even could have attended during the time of Jesus?

For all the horrors in the Old Testament there is no mentioning of the punishment of the dead. Once God laid waste to your town, killing people for working on Saturday and demanding that the community execute those who commit the smallest of offenses, once God killed all women, children and trees in Joshua He was done with you, that was it. You had messed with the wrong God, messed with the tribe He favored. Not until Gentle Jesus meek and mild is the idea of eternal punishment and everlastin

Michigan_Man read my blog view my photos
Jan 9, 2008 | 1:35 PM

eternal punishment and everlasting fire introduced.

What about the rest of the Bible? What about the Gospel of Thomas? What about the Gospel of Judas? What about the Gospel of Mary? What about the Roman dictators who printed the Bible and legalized Christianity? Did they leave the entire Bible in tact or did they take parts out they didn't like and add in parts that would make it better? What about all the languages that the Bible has been translated through? How sure are you that the Bible is the word of God? Are you not committing Blasphemy if you are praying to the wrong God? If you don't believe in God in your heart but say that you are, you can still be convicted of thoughtcrime and you are lying, another offense for which you would go to Hell. Can you believe the Bible is the untampered with word of God? If it is not, then what are you worshiping, the word of some Roman dictator a thousand years ago who altered the text in order to gain power? Would that not offend any sort of God?

How long has mankind been in existence? Lets say a conservative number, 100,000 years. That means that God sat back with folded arms watching...watching as tribes rise up, wage war, most people dieing of their teeth or disease or famine...watching...watching with folded arms as people come up with various religions, think of the stars they worshiped, the sun, the moon, the bear skulls used as alters...God watched all this happen with folded arms for about 98,000 years and then about 2,000 years ago decided that now might be the time to intervene and the best place to

Michigan_Man read my blog view my photos
Jan 9, 2008 | 1:35 PM

intervene and the best place to do that would be bronze age Israel with a human sacrifice and hope that news can spread by word of mouth. I'm sorry, I cannot believe this, I cannot respect this, and you need to throw off this mythology or else you risk waisting this life, the only life you have on a lie.

Michigan_Man read my blog view my photos
Jan 9, 2008 | 1:38 PM

One4A11 read my blog view my photos
Jan 11, 2008 | 3:40 PM

Wow, Mr Man, you apparently have much more time to post on these blogs than myself. Sorry I took so long to get back to this, but between work, home, and being a full time student ...there is not much free time to blog.
People have tried to Rock my faith several times. Some of my friends have serious doubts.
I don't believe in pushing my believes on other people nor do I allow others to push theirs on me. I stand solid on my believes!
Faith is believing ...it is not seeing, hearing , touching. When you have faith in someone, they no longer need to prove their trust or loyalty to you. The inconsistancies in the Bible are just more reasons to have Faith. Faith is when you need no proof. I am not a religeous nut that you seem to have pictured in your mind. I am a spiritual person with a long history of reasons why my faith is so unbreakable. I am sure you can get someone on one of these blogs to argue with you, but I am not the one. I will not prove to you anything. It is not my job to give you answers to your questions. When I have questions about life, I pray. You do what you have to do. You are well spoken, and would make a good lawyer though, I give you that. Maybe you can use those talents to enriche your life. I will say though I do not believe alot of the mythology that you speak of.
Wasting my life? there is no way. I am probably the happiest person you will ever know...if you knew me that is.
Are you familer with the serenity prayer? It is posted also on my blog. But just for you, I will post it here:

God, please grant me serenity to accept the things I

One4A11 read my blog view my photos
Jan 11, 2008 | 3:45 PM

? It is posted also on my blog. But just for you, I will post it here:

God, please grant me serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Amen!
I am wise enough to know, I will never change your mind about religion.
Faith, love, hope, are feelings that are personal. And I HOPE you are wise enough to know, you could never change my heart. I wish you all lifes best Mr Man.

Michigan_Man read my blog view my photos
Jan 11, 2008 | 11:11 PM

Yes, that is what I said, you are closed minded. You will not challenge your own beliefs and for some odd reason consider that concept to be a virtue. For you closed mindedness is a virtue. I am trying to help you, trying to raise your awareness to the level where charlatanry cannot poison your life. Closed mindedness is not a virtue and the charlatan who told you that is taking you for a ride.

By the way, that was very Christian of you to attempt to disparage me at the opening of your post. There was a lot of Christian modesty there.

Inconsistencies are more of a reason to believe? Believe what, the stories are inconsistent? Which story? The less evidence the better? There are plenty of religions out there with even less evidence, isn't that more of a reason to believe? Why Christianity? Why of the 150 religions with over 1,000,000 adherents, the 10,000 practicing religions with any amount of followers, of the 33,800 denominations within Christianity do you think of are of the right religion and the right denomination? How arrogant is that to believe?

You can change my mind about religion, I have changed my mind about religion. I went from Baptized Catholic to agnostic to anti-theist atheist to atheist/religious tolerance, to atheist and then back to anti-theist atheist. You can change my mind about religion, just present some evidence, provide some reasoning, present your argument logically.

Are you familiar with the Bible? Matthew 6 verses 5 and 6? The mere discussion of your religion is a violation of the teachings of Jesus. Of course

Michigan_Man read my blog view my photos
Jan 11, 2008 | 11:13 PM

Of course you are out to convert people, that is the nature of religion. Religion is the inculcation by coercion, believe what I believe or I will hurt you or my God will hurt you. The Bible does not demand love, the Bible actually demands death. Re-read your ten commandments and look for the punishment of the violations of those commandments. What is to happen if I should work on the Sabbath? What should happen if I blaspheme against God as I am now? What is to happen if I do not honor my mother and father, if I make graven images, if I worship an idol? The punishment is death. If you are a Christian you are not required to love me, you are required to kill me. Only with God can people give ourselves license to be wolves to one another. You cannot nit pick out of the Bible, either its all true or none of it is true. There is nothing allegorical about being instructed on how to beat your slaves, on killing people for working on Saturday with stones, to providing a mathematical formula for the price you can get for your daughter.

If you don't believe the crazy things in the Bible then you are not a Christian, you just have some things in common with Christians. You did say that you believe the Bible is a literal history, I challenged that view academically, and you just shut down into blind faith rather than defending your faith reasonably and logically. Dinesh D'Souza can defend his faith, he doesn't simply say "that's my faith and if you don't like it you can go to hell," he says I'm going to hell and then tells me why.

Yes, I am familiar with the al

Michigan_Man read my blog view my photos
Jan 11, 2008 | 11:14 PM

Yes, I am familiar with the alcoholic prayer. If alcoholism is why you became a Christian then I feel bad for you that you were preyed upon to pray in your moment of weakness looking for help by those looking to increase the revenue in their collection plates. Throw off this racket while you can before it consumes more of your life. Only by throwing off these mythical beliefs can be truly come to love one another and get to the basis and true foundation of morality, truth, and solidarity.

One4A11 read my blog view my photos
Jan 12, 2008 | 11:08 PM

( You can change my mind about religion, I have changed my mind about religion. I went from Baptized Catholic to agnostic to anti-theist atheist to atheist/religious tolerance, to atheist and then back to anti-theist atheist. )

Ok now I understand alot more.....

I never said I was a Christian, I never said I was Cathlic, I don't follow Any religion. I don't go to church, and after finding many contridicting things in the Bible, I gave up trying to put the puzzle together. Since you seem so interested..... This is what I call myself (SPIRITUAL) I believe there is a higher power. The highest word I know of to honor that power is God. I am a definite true believer of this power because of many things that happened in my life. There is just not enough time in a day to explain to you all the reasons why I feel so strongly about my faith.

No, I have not been or ever have been an alchoholic. I saw that prayer on a memo holder a long time ago. I bought that memo holder and it has been sticking to my refrigerator since. I simply liked it. It made sense to me. It helped me. It frees me. I have tried to help so many people people in my life It's heartbreaking to try hard and cannot seem to help them. That prayer helped me to let go ....but not give up.
I have challenged my religion. I was born into a prodestant family. That didn't feel right. I tried on the Christian shoes for awhile,that had issues for me.I don't even go to church anymore. I do talk to God everyday. I believe He hears me and He answers every prayer. Sometimes it's not to my liking, but it seems to always

One4A11 read my blog view my photos
Jan 12, 2008 | 11:13 PM

Sometimes it's not to my liking, but it seems to always turn out to be the best. I do believe that the Devil is real also and that he does try to divide and conquer us. I do believe in a Heaven and a Hell.
I also believe that if we had all the answers now, then what? I don't think religion is about faith. I think religion is just and opinion. I've seen the cathlics leave church go to their little clubs and seen them cheat on their spouses. (And of course that is not the only religion who does that)
Ask yourself this, with all you have studied, what stands out to be the real truth for you? that would be your true spiritual belief. It takes alot of soul searching. But once you know it, no one will ever be able to rock your boat again.

One4A11 read my blog view my photos
Jan 12, 2008 | 11:24 PM

I truely hope you find your answers. Keep searching. Don't be discourage if someone elses answers are not your answers. If it was all laid out for us and we would all be the same and God did everything for us. Then life would be so dull. Don't be so quick to judge others. It pushes them away. I had some pretty definite opions about you when you first started to attack my faith, but decided to wait and find out why you picked my blog. I don't even think my blog is visable for the public to view...Anyway, take the good or whatever you can use and leave the rest behind. Hopefully I have been of some help.

Michigan_Man read my blog view my photos
Jan 13, 2008 | 12:07 PM

So you just made up a religion. You do understand that a Protestant is a Christian, right? You are a Christian, you just quoted the Bible. You said the Bible is a history book, that makes you a Christian. If you don't identify as a Christian or believe anything in Christianity then why would you quote the Bible! If you want to be a deist, be a deist, but don't be a made up theist religion! Doesn't the fact that you just made it up prove that it is fake? You said you talk to God and God talks back? Are you sure you are not just giving yourself some re-assurances? You are in charge of your life, you. Not a God, not many gods, not Yahweh. You are responsible for your own life, you have control over your own life. If you don't think religion is about faith or that you are a Christian, then you need to do some more research. If you want to believe I am going to burn in Hell because I don't believe in your God which you admit you just made up for the sake of being spirtual, that is your business, but don't try to go out and convert people and expect me to lay down about it. If it gets you through the day, fine, but keep it to yourself. If you are going to come onto sites like this and broadcast your religion (which is your faith) then be prepared for people who have facts, evidence, and reasoning (as well as those from other faiths) to tell you that you are wrong and exactly why you are wrong.

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God, please grant me serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Amen! (THIS PRAYER IS NOT JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ALCHOHOLICS...THIS IS GOOD ADVICE FOR THOSE WITH STRESS AND ANXIETY. WE CANNOT DO IT ALL BY OURSELVES AND THAT IS WHY WE HAVE EACH OTHER!)

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