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How Modern Liberals Think

Evan Sayet


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shockhazard read my blog view my photos
Oct 1, 2007 | 7:13 PM

Excellent vidio Tim ! It's well worth the time to watch . How true it is .

StooltimeCounseling read my blog view my photos
Oct 3, 2007 | 7:20 AM

Good to see you're back, Tim.

saturn1 read my blog view my photos
Oct 3, 2007 | 9:15 AM

Hey tim, how do you post youtube videos on youre blogs

whatwhenwhyhow read my blog
Oct 3, 2007 | 6:42 PM

Interesting video but doesn't it require a judgment on what is good and what is evil? Is that up to us? Brokeback Mountain I think the point was people don't choose to be homosexual over marriage because for some it isn't a choice but it is the way God put them here. Many marry because that is what society says they should do and others are beaten up because they are who they are. Agreed with a lot of the video and think that people who were once labeled 'liberals' agree with those labeled 'conservatives' on a lot of issues. Will be reading some of the books mentioned and was wondering if there is a website to communicate with Mr. Sayet.

Michigan_Man read my blog view my photos
Oct 3, 2007 | 7:29 PM

Whatwhenwhyhow,

The speech was designed to point out an ideology which now dominates much of the Democratic Party and Western Europe. Understanding how Modern Liberals think does not negate the substance of their opinions, but rather explores how those positions are arrived at. Every position held by the Modern Liberals is incidental so some of those positions such as homosexuality and gay marriage may very well be right, but the Modern Liberals does not make such judgments because the position on gay marriage is held to show how homosexuals are victims of good for no other reason than to tare down what is good and elevate what is evil until everything is in the middle and there is nothing left to fight about. Society may be wrong on gay marriage, but the reason the Modern Liberal holds the opinion is not based on the merits of that particular argument but rather to destroy the common and conventional for no other reason than it is common and conventional. The point is to illustrate what has become the closing of the American mind.

Saturn1,

Post the embedded link in your post, go to the edit option after it is posted, and then repost with no modifications.

saturn1 read my blog view my photos
Oct 4, 2007 | 12:56 AM

Thanks tim, i watched most of video today before work, i do agrea on a lot of it, but also in todays world, we have to much emphasis on blame the next guy, or blame the tv, or blame the movie, or video game, or the democrats, or republican, why dont we just realize that it is our own faults. why are kids at the impressionable age watching these things, mine is in bed when prime time comes on, has a tv in his room, but no cable, just for his games, and my computer is in living room, where myself and my wife can see. my oldest son could not have a computer in his room till he was 18. we have laws that movies have pg,pg13,r.or x or g. If the younger kids are seeing this at home, it is not the fault of groups, it is ours! now i enjoy some of those programs he mentioned, we need to realize that these are intended for comedy, or adult viewing, you dont see a lot of those programs on friday nights, or saturday, a lot are on monday thru friday when kids should be in bed for school. Bottom line is no matter who runs the country, we run our homes! do we need a law put on the books that if we dont use common sense, we get a fine or go to jail, where does it end???

saturn1 read my blog view my photos
Oct 4, 2007 | 1:02 AM

Another point, when it gets closer to election time, lets see which side buys air time for political adds during these program air slots, probabley both

whatwhenwhyhow read my blog
Oct 16, 2007 | 4:40 PM

Michigan Man, been out of it for a while for some personal reasons but appreciate your reply. Gave me something else to think about and try to comprehend. You stated, '....Modern Liberals . do not make such judgments because the position on gay marriage is held to show how homosexuals are victims of good for no other reason than to tare down what is good and elevate what is evil until everything is in the middle and there is nothing left to fight about.' Either way doesn't someone have to define 'good' and 'evil' to get to the 'middle'? I get the sliding scale (line) with the polar extremes but don't get the defining of the end points. Have always wondered why our society has to label everything and everyone and classify and carpmentilitize (spelling??) it. I agree that the American mind has been closed. My Aunt told me the government doesn't want us to think anymore just believe whatever they tell us. Maybe George Orwell's classic '1984' was more prophetic than people realize. Will look forward to continuing our chat if you care to.

Michigan_Man read my blog view my photos
Oct 16, 2007 | 5:33 PM

The Modern Liberal does not need to define 'good' or 'evil' because such judgments are not being made but rather observed. The Modern Liberal observed judgment being casted down upon what is considered evil in society and rather than thinking rationally about whether or not such a thing is evil they see victimization. Since the Modern Liberal is indiscriminate of all behaviors and they have no explanation for different results their only explanation for success is that success has cheated. When the Modern Liberal sees success such as a company making profits they assume what is successful to be bigoted and taking advantage of someone else and therefore evil. Anything that does not succeed must be the victim of 'good' therefore must be demonized and eventually dismantled.

You see the Modern Liberal only values indiscriminateness. Not only are they are they sure of their opinion but they are completely antagonistic to any opinion other than their own. Why? When your only moral imperative is indiscriminateness you know that your opinion is the one arrived at through that virtue therefore any opinion other than your own must have employed discrimination. That reasoning is why Bush is Hitler, why Cheney is Darth Vader, why one military strategy producing better results than another strategy requires a "willing suspension of disbelief." You see to the Modern Liberal one military strategy is the same as the next because they both use force therefore they cannot explain a better result from one therefore General Patreaus must be lying.

The Modern Liberal holds ev

Michigan_Man read my blog view my photos
Oct 16, 2007 | 5:36 PM

The Modern Liberal holds every position incidentally not making any judgments except upon judgment itself. Whenever something is shunned in society or rejected the Modern Liberal see such shunning or rejection as some kind of chicanery or bigotry and therefore attributes a sense of victimization that doesn't exist. Whenever a Modern Liberal sees success they assume those people cheated and attributes a sense of bigotry that doesn't exist. The Modern Liberal doesn't need to define 'good' or 'evil' because they do not make such judgment, they only recognize those judgments when they are made by others and attribute bigotry or victimization respectively.

Are the positions held incidentally by the Modern Liberal reduced in substance because of the manner in which those positions were arrived at? Of course not, but debating a Modern Liberal is irrelevant because facts, evidence, logic, truth, decency, and morality are irrelevant to them. The positions they hold may be right, but the reason the Modern Liberal holds such opinions is because they are rejected by society.

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My name is Tim. I am a school board trustee in the Southgate Community School District. I am a graduate of the University of Michigan with a double major in economics and political science with a minor in history. I am normal, I hope. :-)

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