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by Longshot from DETROIT

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SURRENDER?

We were not attacked by Iraqi's. Iraq did not declare war on us. In reality we are not even fighting the Iraqi's.

Terrorists is supposedly the target. But the reality is Terrorists are everywhere. They have struck everywhere. London, Germany, many different Middle East targets, many other Non-Middle Eastern Targets.  And MOST are home grown Terrorists, that have struck in these countries.

SURRENDER?

To WHOM may I ask, would we have to surrender to? NOBODY IN IRAQ HAD ATTACKED US TO START WITH. The people that did cheer when the statue of another Mad Man was brought tumbling down. That of Saddam Hussein, no longer want us there.

The look on McCain's face said it all, about him. SMUGLY INSANE.

I WILL NEVER SURRENDER IN IRAQ.

We invaded this country for what purpose? It had been proven by his own words, Osama Bin Laden. That he was behind 9-11. But Bush didn't go after him, he instead went after Saddam Hussein.

Fine we brought down that murderous dictator. And I asked this, the day Iraq hanged him.

NOW WHAT?

Now why are we still there? These people have been killing themselves since the beginning of time. CONSTANT CIVIL WAR AMONG THEM.

ARABS.

Our presence in Iraq will not deter that situation. Fact is it's been proven that we are escalating it among certain groups. And because of our presence there, it has also escalated the training of more Terrorist cells there.

What conditions have improved there while our conditions here have decreased because of it. The TRILLIONS in the hole because of it. We want to RE-BUILD a Better Iraq for Iraqi's? What about Americans? We want Iraqi's to have better medical facilities for their better health? WHILE IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY, MORE AMERICANS THAN EVER GO WITHOUT HEALTH INSURANCE?

There are Middle Eastern people coming here, can't even speak english but have FOOD STAMP CARDS AND MEDICAID almost upon just showing up. I shop at Aldi's in Garden City. I cannot count the number of times I've stood behind these people, not only in lines there, but all the super markets. Their baskets filled to the Rims, sometimes two & three baskets full. THEN OUT COME THE FOOD STAMP CARDS. They can't even speak english. I was born and raised in the Detroit area. I'm 51 years old, and I certainly have never received Food Stamps or Medicaid. STUPID ME, I WORKED. Paid for BC-BS out of pocket for 25 years. People these days working TWO Jobs are without. But foreigners not having been in this country for two years have FOOD STAMPS AND MEDICAID.

But Mr. McCain will never surrender in IRAQ?

Got news for this brain dead demented idiot. WE HAVE SURRENDERED TO THEM RIGHT HERE IN OUR OWN COUNTRY.  THEY HAVE BENEFITS HERE IN U.S.A. THAT AMERICANS BORN HERE DON'T HAVE.

But McCain if elected wants to continue spilling more BLOOD of AMERICAN TROOPS NOT ONLY IN IRAQ, BUT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST.  And I continue to ask,

WHY? FOR WHAT PURPOSE?

WE ARE NOT STOPPING TERRORISM THERE OR ANYWHERE ELSE. Road & Car bombs are still going off at if not the same rate as before, but at times even more so. Hundreds of people are dying daily. NON STOP.

Understand something McCain. VIETNAM IS DONE WITH. IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO. And I understandably realize for the Nam Vets that fought that Horror. In their minds it may never be over. The nightmares that still exists for them may never cease.  But does that mean we have to continue this already 6 year NIGHTMARE, for now this generation of soldiers FOR THE SINS OF THE PAST? Because this is what's happening.

McCAIN IS STILL FIGHTING THE PAST. PTS is very real, and does exist for years in it's victims. I give McCain his due for his service to this country. He paid a high price. But I don't extend that gratitude to the point of wanting him to WIN at any cost. WIN WHAT, at that. Shed more blood for what. Iraq is about as losing battle as Nam.  In fact it may be even more of a losing battle. Because these nuts willing to blow themselves are WAITING IN LINES TO DO IT. And for every dictator we take down in the entire Middle East, there are a thousand more to take their places.

It is the LAND OF INSANITY.  Fighting and willing to die for a DELUSION, that in reality doesn't even exist. McCain has a lot in common with the Radical Muslims thoughts. Only it's no longer McCain's blood and life on the line.

I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT A 5 YEAR POW OF ANOTHER WAR, WOULD WANT TO PUT A DIFFERENT ERA OF TROOPS THROUGH THE VERY SAME. I CANNOT FATHOM IT.

IT MAKES NO SANE SENSE.

""" YOU """ WILL NEVER SURRENDER, Sen. McCAIN ????

NAM IS OVER. LET IT CONTINUE TO BE OVER.

YOUR NIGHTMARE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BECOME A NEW SOLDIERS NIGHTMARE.

This isn't Vietnam. But your trying awfully hard to make it another one. 6 years and counting. Almost 4,100 and counting just in Iraq. Not counting Afghanistan.

What magic number are you looking for before you consider it a lost cause?

58, 237?

"YOUR"  NEVER GOING TO SURRENDER"?

NO, YOU WANT AND ARE DETERMINED TO CREATE ANOTHER,

 

 

In fact your not going to rest until you do.

 

THIS IS HOW SICK IN THE HEAD YOU ARE.

GOD HELP OUR SOLDIERS IF THIS LUNATIC IS ELECTED.

 

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motorcitychris read my blog
May 29, 2008 | 2:26 AM

Sh** i'm there with you on the food stamp recipients. And it's damn out irritating. Nobody I ever known collected them neither. And yes, we will be in big time trouble if McNut gets in. A lot more coming home in boxes. Two crazy's, one didn't have to go to war. Other did, yet wants more of the same. I agree it doesn't make sense. 3 lost causes, War, Bush, & McCain.

concerned_uscitizen read my blog view my photos
Jun 1, 2008 | 4:52 AM

WOW!!!! I started out understanding your mislead argument, and then you lost me. Here is why you are mislead:

1)I have been to Iraq. Three times. I was one of the first members on the ground. Yes the Free Iraqi’s do want us there. Whit out us there, the terrorist cells take over the Free Iraqis neighborhoods. Many of their children lie dead in the streets after a night of the cells trying to hold a strong hold. When they (free Iraqis) see us, (the US solders) coming, they come out cheering. Is this what you call not wanting us there? NOT I!!

2)The statement we did not go after Bin Laden. Way, WAY wrong! Look on the FOX home page. We have been in Afghanistan for the past 7 years, (right after 911, I know I was there also!) We are going thru caves, bombing entrances, closing strong holds where Bin laden hides. He was our First “Target” as you put it. We continue today looking for him in the hills. Saddam Husain was a supporter for Bin Laden. He was sending weapons to fight against us. That is NOT why we went into Iraq. We went in because he was MURDERING tens of thousands of people because they did not share his way of thinking. Is that a terrorist? I think so. Did the U.N. send any of their troops in to help save the Iraqis from being ethnically cleansed? NO!!! Winnies! WE DID!! There is not much difference between Him and one other mass murderer in history, Adolf Hitler!! Hitler just murdered more! YES WE DID NEED TO GO IN AND SAVE THEM!!!

3)AS far as medical facilities vs. health care in America, apples and oranges my friend, apples and oranges.

concerned_uscitizen read my blog view my photos
Jun 1, 2008 | 4:53 AM

3) AS far as medical facilities vs. health care in America, apples and oranges my friend, apples and oranges. Helping BUILD BUILDINGS is not the same as providing millions of people free health care. Two different problems. Yes, I agree health care is a problem, but I will hit on that one later. Yes since we are in these neighborhoods, it has “pee’d in the wheaties’ “of the extremist groups. GOOD!! The Iraqis are starting to tell us where the terrorists are hiding, as well as where their stock piles are stashed. Once again, they want us there! Spending money on the war, it cost money; however, war helps boost the economy. Unfortunately, it has to work that way. How do we boost our economy from here, look at my blog.

4) Foreigners using food stamp, for that fact, being here in the first place, well, I agree with you. The only thing is the big sign on the statue of liberty, "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free..." Even though a French poet wrote this, our fore fathers adopted the slogan. They have a right to come and start a new life; HOWEVER, it has to be the legal way. If they want to be here, REALLY BE HERE, do it proper. They are not legally allowed to even hold food stamps not being a legal citizen according to law, so why is your local government allowing this! Sounds like someone needs to be fired!!

5) Quoting numbers KIA/MIA from Vietnam, two different wars. Please don’t confuse the two. Nam was a political war that had so many different twists, it was a horrible situation. My father fought bravely, beside m

concerned_uscitizen read my blog view my photos
Jun 1, 2008 | 4:54 AM

5) Quoting numbers KIA/MIA from Vietnam, two different wars. Please don’t confuse the two. Nam was a political war that had so many different twists, it was a horrible situation. My father fought bravely, beside many men who had paid the ultimate price, and I give my warmest, deepest love and empathy for everyone in that war. However, it was a coo between the military Trying to take over the country and make it a communist reign. We made many mistakes there, as well as in Iraq, but the difference is Saddam Husain, was murdering tens of thousands of people for no reason, just as Hitler did. By what you are saying, should we have not helped in stopping Hitler? How far would Saddam have taking his reign? If you don’t think he was trying to take over the world, you are mistaking. 1990, Kuwait.. Remember? He tried to take it. You are right about there will always be “nut jobs” in the world but there must be someone willing to step up and say” NO, it is our fight! We will stick up for the weak that cannot defend themselves! You sound like a patriotic person, do you disagree? I have served proudly for the past 12 years; I have been in a lot of conflicts from Kosovo, to Iraq. And I have stood beside many brave men and women who will say the same thing, we cannot surrender.
Now to answer the big question you asked, surrender from what? We will not surrender to the bullies of the world. No one should be able to murder Men, women, and children just because he wants too. This is what we will not surrender to. As the true soldiers slogan goes, “Never retreat, Never surrend

Longshot read my blog view my photos
Jun 1, 2008 | 5:22 AM

You HIT THE NAIL ON IT'S HEAD!

THE BULLIES OF THE WORLD!

THAT'S DAMN RIGHT. And they are ALL OVER THIS WORLD. Not just confined to Iraq.

The slaughter is everywhere, every country.

My second cousin has also served two tours in Iraq. His Dad is a Ranked officer with the 119th in Mi. His other uncles ( my first cousins, all brothers ). Three of his other uncles along with his Dad were also drafted during Nam. One served IN COUNTRY IN NAM.

Nam and Iraq were and are the SAME Propaganda WARS. And what is your primary objection to the Nam KIA count? In reference to Iraq?

I asked a legitimate Question, that would be posed to McCain.

What magic number of KIAs are you looking for before you consider it a lost cause?

58, 237? LIKE NAM?

Whether you think so or not, it is a question that needs to be asked. AND ANSWERED.

And yes I am absorbed with the safety of our soldiers. I do not want to see another 15 year lost cause like Nam. With countless casualties. I do not want to see another mile long WALL OF NAMES. The point of my post.

pattiernbsn read my blog
Jun 3, 2008 | 8:42 PM

Thank you us_citizen for your service and your comments!!!!!

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Longshot

Born (1957) & Raised in DETROIT. Female, PROUD ITALIAN, Semi-Retired Groom ( worked at DRC from 1976 until the last horse left the grounds in 1998 ) Love Blues, Insane sense of Humor, but have a very serious side. Stubborn. Into Cooking and Common Sense. Democrat: Part Lib/Moderate HAVE A MIND OF MY OWN! Christian: but cannot stand preaching all the time fanatics. ""DIVERSIONS FROM THE BLOG WRITTEN ARE AUTOMATICALLY DELETED. DON'T LIKE IT, TOUGH! NOBODY ASKED YOU TO COMMENT"".

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